I’m really hesitant to post this, because it is so ugly and so disturbing. But… here’s a list of some of the worst quotes I’ve seen from (people I think are) MRAs and anti-feminists, commenting on George Sodini, the woman-hating racist who shot 12 women, 3 of whom died, in a health club earlier this week. There’s a bunch of quotes here, but I’m sure I could have found 2 or 3 times as many if I hadn’t gotten sick of reading.
By no means do I suggest that the quotes in this post represent the most common, centrist views in the MRA, anti-feminist and “pick up artist” communities. In most of the forums where I read these quotes, I did see occasional disagreements with the kind of thing I’m quoting — although all too often, not — and of course many condemned Sodini. And, obviously, I’ve cherry-picked the most offensive comments, not the most typical comments.
Nonetheless, most of these views are, in a way, accepted within those communities. No one is shocked to see these views posted; no one is banned or modded for posting these views; and the disagreements are, in many cases, rare and mild, if they come at all. In other words, the most vilely misogynistic garbage, even to the point of sympathizing with murder, is part of the spectrum of ordinary opinion, within these movements. And that’s both a cause for concern, and illustrates what’s so fucked about about the “men’s rights” movement and community.
MRAs aside, though, I think that George Sodini had a lot in common with attitudes in our society generally. As Amanda says, Sodini’s blog was full of absolutely typical “nice guy ™” bitterness and entitlement. Mass violence is what’s unusual about Sodini, not his sense of entitlement to sex with attractive women, nor his resentful misogyny. That sense of frustrated entitlement, I suspect, motivates most mass shooters like Sodini (which is probably why nearly all of them are white men — no one else in our society feels so entitled).
Quotes under the fold. Trigger warning.
George Sodini is an MRA hero as much a reason to learn game. Finally a mass murderer writes a relatively coherent manifesto. Could be better, but at least it is implied that feminism is to blame and he is taking a last stand. I had been waiting for this (almost thinking I had to do it myself) and I am impressed. Kudos.
Women are treated much better than men in America. This is merely the blowback from feminism.
Women have to accept this incident as a tax on their freeloading. Women get men to buy them drinks, dinners, and bridezilla weddings, all in return for virtually nothing. Once in a while, a few women get shot up. Given the $500 billion a year that women mooch off of men each year, that is a relatively small tax to pay.
Women, particularly the feminazis, have a good deal of introspection to do. Better they do it now before Islam forces them to do it on Islam’s terms.
…he had every reason to lash out at the society that screwed him over and make its denizens feel some of the pain that they had inflicted on him. There are millions, tens of millions of men in this country who have been deceived in a similar fashion, and there are numerous Sodinis amongst their ranks who will react violently and murderously once they uncover the truth.
What amuses me is how the women of this country and the West don’t realize the role they have in creating men like Sodini.
One thing that might help prevent future incidents of this sort is repealing IMBRA, the federal law that essentially put the mail order bride industry out of business.
His last girlfriend was around twenty years ago. After twenty years of rejection by women, he finally had the courage to take his revenge by shooting at members of the sex who rejected him and made him feel like a loser.
I am calling him a hero for being a symbol for the consequences of denying men sex, not for killing those women. Obviously they didn’t personally deserve it. But something like this has to happen, perhaps hundreds of times over again, before feminists get the message. [...]
I know the feminist media will try to emphasize his other issues and downplay the sexual frustration. Even so, his other issues mostly seem to result from an absent father (who was just a “sperm donor” in his words), and that is not supposed to be a problem according to the feminists either. So either way this is good press for the MRA movement.
For every nerdy, smelly, fat, or otherwise socially undesirable man out there, there is an equally unattractive woman walking around. (more than one actually because there are more women than men on the planet)
The problem is, our feminized society has given every woman the power to hold out for higher quality men than they deserve.
This creates an imbalance that leads to tragedies like the one in PA.
For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. (Newton’s 3rd Law)
If empowered women keep applying pressure, they will create an explosion.
Import ten, twenty million nubile, lithe, young women to America and repeal the prohibition on prostitution and it would go a long way towards eliminating these sort of incidents and the anger brewing inside of millions of men like Sodini, not so much because they could get safe, affordable blow jobs, but it would result in the lowering of the bitch shields of millions of women by orders of magnitude if they had to compete with those millions of nubile, lithe, young women.
A decent looking man who earns a good living and does not abuse women DESERVES to get laid. Period.
The fact that so many do not, is a crime.
And in a just society, all crimes are eventually punished.
Because of feminism, sexual harassment, political correctness, and the MSM, men have become neutered and sterile. [...]
As an aside:
Have you guys noticed a trend in fat women? Some of the ones I have spoken to actually believe they can get alpha cock. They don’t want to hook up with beta men either. This is a troubling development.
If 99% of women weren’t so damn shallow If 99% of women weren’t so damn shallow, shit like this wouldn’t occur.
[And then, in response to that comment:]
Not one single woman is capable of understanding this. This is why women should not vote.
my advice to men in this country after this incident
stock up on ammo, learn the art of being a reloader, and buy you a revolver, a shotgun, a high powered rifle that fires something equivilant to a .308, and an “assault weapon” that fires 7.62′s
the grabbers are gonna jump on this
you are right, the way this story is covered is proof of institutional misandry
A man deserves to get laid, just a a person who walks into Starbucks with $5 deserves a drink.
Men do everything women ask them to do, in pursuit of sex, and when it comes time for women to give it up, they don’t.
So just like that guy with $5, men have followed the rules to create the value that women have demanded in exchange for sex, and after they pay, many of them walk away empty handed.
In any other place in ‘the world’ a crime like this would not be tolerated. But is is perfectly OK in the sexual market to extract value from a man for years and never fuck him. (Hello, paging Lady Raine!)
Women (like LR and others) enjoy love, affection, and devotion of men and then reneg on the sex.
As long as they can afford it, women will go for the best men, and they won’t give up their equality, largely backed by affirmative action, without massive violence perpetrated by the minority of men who are left sexless under feminism.
Therefore I applaud rape and purposeful violence against women where it is made clear that embittered men are hurting and killing them for not putting out. Only then will women hopefully abandon their equality and be forced to settle monogamously by sheer economic necessity.
[Response to the "applaud rape" comment:]
Ok, that I don’t cosign with… but I do find it hilarious!
[The only other response to the "applaud rape" comment:]
While I don’t approve of this, I fully understand that when a person has been so heavily subjugated, abused, and dehumanized, they will root for something, anything, that strikes back.
Urban women today, are sowing the seeds of violence against themselves. From guys that seem harmless today (like Sodini was until last week).
Women simply have to accept this incident as a tax.
Women get men to buy them drinks, dinners, etc. their whole lives. Women have no moral restraints about being moochers while doing nothing for the man in return.
Every now and then, a few women will get shot up by a man. That is the tax on the freebies women gladly accept with no reciprocity.
It is a very minor tax if just 3 women die in return for the $100 billion or whatever than men pay to women each year (if you count divorce court theft, the number is much higher).
Murder is always wrong, but women are not willing to accept their own hand in creating this backlash.
I saw the news today, Jeb, and I knew that those stuck-up B’s at MSNBC would be going on and on about him hating women, when they don’t know the whole story. I first thought about those frigid harpies at the exercise studio who were too up-tight to give a guy a chance on a date. I bet when the lights went out and they felt those warm bullets entering their bodies they wished that they had been a little nicer to the guys out there who just needed a date.
WOMEN need to realize something, beauty is only skin deep and a very flimsy asset. Men are scared, scarred, angry and push agains the wall. A man can not complete in this media drive word of flash, glitz and the right thing to have to impress the right women. A woman in this culture has vary little sense of loyalty and no sense of reasoning towards what a decent man can be. Even the most timid of dogs, when pushed so far will bear thier teeth and strick back. I think that is what happened here. [...]
Women need to wake up and stop being so vindictive, but it is hard to wrest power away from someone, especially when they are granted that power by ill-gotten means.
Again, I understand why this has happened completely.
He is 100% right about the cruelty of women. He should’ve written a book, i guess too many feminazis would’ve protested his book, so he had to use this final method.