Whenever a case like the one at Duke comes up, too many people will say that if the case falls apart this alleged victim has harmed future — real — rape victims.
That’s a false charge.
The false-accusation theorists are the ones who harm present and future real rape victims. They never wait for pesky evidence that proves their theory before launching personal attacks against alleged victims. They sit like vultures waiting for the next case where they can get their claws into an alleged victim.
They also shift personal responsibility from themselves to the alleged victims they attack for the fallout of their attacks on all rape victims. If their attacks are proven to be against real rape victims they play the innocent victim and at best offer a putrid, oops. More often they fly silently away until their next target comes into sight.
Women they can label as sluts are a favorite target of these vultures. Often it seems like it only takes being an alleged rape victim for some vultures to label an alleged victim a slut when the alleged rapist isn’t someone totally repulsive.
If any charges are dropped they swoop in triumphant while making enough of a ruckus to attract other vultures. The kill is all that matters since they don’t need legal proof that the alleged victim is a liar who committed a crime by reporting rape.
The interesting contradiction about these vultures is that many of them will also feast on select alleged rapists. Any disreputable alleged rapist with male alleged victims is a prime target. That target becomes tastier if he is a minority and any of his victims are not.
Alleged rapists who are classified as illegal aliens are also favorite prey of these vultures.
Vultures accuse those who assume all alleged victims to be credible — until proven not credible — of being vultures out to destroy innocent men. That is a false accusation and a projection of their own habits onto those who oppose them.
That vultures say they oppose false or unfounded accusations at the same time they make them is the ultimate vulture irony.
Legal proof is only needed when the accusation is against someone they identify with. Which raises the question of why so many vultures identify with alleged rapists.
If you don’t want to prevent rape victims from getting justice, don’t be a vulture.
(Crossposted at my blog, Abyss2hope)
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You must be kidding….this woman’s story has completly fallen apart. Remember, she first said that no one penetrated her with anything other than a penis…now she says it wasn’t a penis. Read a news story, any news story about this case. This woman is NOT worth defending, and she has hurt the credability of other rape victims. Why are you still defending her?
That the extremely specific charge of rape (vaginal penetration by a penis) has been dropped, but the somewhat less specific charge of sexual assault (and the kidnapping) have not, suggests that there is still plenty of reason to believe that the victim was assaulted.
Just out of curiousity, slumpyb, which sources are you using to compare her original statement and her current statement? I’d love to see those.
Hmm, slumbpy is illistrating the point quite nicely, don’t you think? “She’s hurting the credibility of other rape victims!” Why, exactly, do rape victims need credibility?
Why, exactly, do rape victims need credibility?
umm… because the justice system needs credible evidence?
Slumpyb:
If you really believe this full sentence then you don’t believe in evidence. But then you are asking us to judge this case based on news stories which often have as a major source the defense teams.
If you really believed the logic behind this sentence then you would be doing everything possible to stop men from raping since it is the men who do rape who hurt the credibility of men falsely accused of rape.
But somehow women accused of lying about rape are worse than rapists. Very convenient for those defending alleged rapists.
Slumpyb:
Abyss2hope:
I think it’s true in a general way that ‘members of group X’ who perform ‘bad action Y’ make things worse for other ‘members of group X’ who are accused of committing ‘bad action Y’, but are innocent.
It’s the boy who cried wolf syndrome. If a man claims he’s innocent of committing rape, and he’s shown to be guilty, the next man to claim innocence is going to get a more critical hearing from the people familiar with the first case.
I think that this is true of both men who rape and women who lie about rape.
The difference is that there are (I believe) far, far more men who rape than women who lie about rape.
Right now, somewhere around 25% of women experience rape in their lifetimes. That’s huge, and scary, and disgusting.
Compared to that, false accusations just aren’t a problem. It’s not that they’re not bad, it’s just that . . . well . . . once 25% of men are falsely accused of rape, then I’ll get all worried about it as a social ill.
—Myca
I, for one, would never use this Duke case (which is one I believe is one of false accusation) as a guage for the legitimacy of any future claim of rape. Every case must be taken on it’s own merits and evidence. I’ll never stoop as low as the potbangers.
“If a woman really has the right to say “No” then why do we
always wonder what she was wearing at the time of the attack?”
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I am a rape victim who is pressing charges…which let me tell you…is not an easy thing to do. It is hard to get the prosecutors to even look at your case. They typically prefer to dump any case that isn’t undeniably winnable. Which means witnesses …which most rapes never have. It also means hoping for a jury that doesn’t have one person who believes that women who are raped lie about it. The criminal prosecution process is harrowing.
It maybe true…that no one will ever know what happened the night of the duke rapes…but the men who were accused know. I wonder sometimes how my rapist cannot lose his mind with shame and admit his guilt. Justice is hard enough to get without the Media getting their dirty hands on it. I am speaking out for victims on my site. http://www.anallegoryofthecave.blogspot.com/
NBC’s Saturday Night Live was brazen and pathetic to air the Nancy Grace Duke Rape Skit. I went on their blog to give feedback about why this skit was so offensive. There are heavy currents of this culture of rape that mesmerize and desensitize people to the degradation of women through the TV. Not only do I feel rape is not a subject for a comedy skit…they should also not have the subject of the skit speculating at the truth about what happened that night…before any information had been out on the case…before the case had a fair trial. It makes me sick that misreporting and rape and calling rape victims liars found its way on to SNL. I shared my opinions on the SNL Blog. Someone else who was also disgusted by this abhorrent parody started the blog thread. It is an intense thread in which I rape victims are belittled by meatheads. It is the only place where NBC invites people to share their opinions about the shows they air… Which is why I went there to begin with… Here is the link http://boards.nbc.com/nbc/index.php?showtopic=720319
Recently the thread was inexplicably and mysteriously locked for further commenting.
I contacted the person who started the blog thinking maybe they had the option to shut it down…But they did no such thing. NBC obviously has locked this site. If they don’t like these kinds of free speech conversations to be had then they should not invite angered rape victims to speak by airing comedy about a rape case. I had attempted to contact others at NBC about this and of course no one had responded…disappointing
Can NBC do this? Just shut down the embarrassing and difficult topic they threw around with disrespect?
Good luck with your case CSF.
I’ll second curiousgyrl on that, CSF.