{"id":11412,"date":"2010-10-11T15:04:17","date_gmt":"2010-10-11T22:04:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=11412"},"modified":"2010-10-11T15:04:17","modified_gmt":"2010-10-11T22:04:17","slug":"where-are-the-mens-and-fathers-rights-groups-in-flores-villar-vs-us","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=11412","title":{"rendered":"Where are the men&#039;s and father&#039;s rights groups in Flores-Villar vs US?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>(Crossposted on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/archives\/2010\/10\/11\/where-are-the-mens-and-fathers-rights-groups-in-flores-villar-vs-us\/\">Alas <\/a>and on <a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/debate\/index.php\/2010\/10\/11\/where-are-the-men\u2019s-and-father\u2019s-rights-groups-in-flores-villar-vs-us\/\">TADA<\/a>. If you&#8217;re not someone I know as a feminist, and you want to write in defense of MRAs, please take it to TADA.)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>In my <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/archives\/2010\/10\/11\/supreme-court-to-hear-discrimination-against-fathers-case\/\">prior post<\/a> on a law that discriminates against fathers, which is about to be heard by the Supreme Court &#8212; so this is NOT an obscure or unimportant case &#8212; I quoted from a feminist-authored brief against the law. That brief was signed by almost every major feminist group in the US: The Women&#8217;s Law Project, NOW, Feminist Majority Foundation, the National Congress of Black Women, the National Council of Jewish Women, The National Council of Women&#8217;s Organizations, Legal Momentum, and a bunch of others.<\/p>\n<p>There were many other groups I found that either submitted their own briefs, or signed on to the feminist brief: immigration rights groups, Asian-American groups, the ACLU, a whole bunch of international feminist organizations, Human Rights Watch, People for the American Way, and so on.<\/p>\n<p>So why can&#8217;t I find a <em>single <\/em>Father&#8217;s Rights or Men&#8217;s Right&#8217;s organization that either signed one of the briefs, or submitted one of their own? If bucket-loads of feminist orgs can do it, why can&#8217;t even one MRA organization manage to stand up to fight against this anti-male law?<\/p>\n<p>Only one fatherhood-based organization signed on, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nlffi.org\/\">the National Latino Fatherhood and Family Institute<\/a>, which cosigned the feminist-written brief. NLFFI is an extremely cool group, judging from their website, but they don&#8217;t seem to be a Father&#8217;s Rights or MRA group. (For instance, you won&#8217;t find feminist-bashing on their site, nor any claims that father&#8217;s are victimized by having to pay child support.)<\/p>\n<p>I suspect a few things may be going on here:<\/p>\n<p>1) The base of the men&#8217;s rights activist movement is mostly right-wing, which may have reduced interest in a father&#8217;s rights case that&#8217;s also an immigration rights case.<\/p>\n<p>2) There&#8217;s no obvious way that this case can be used to further feminist-bashing, and feminist-bashing &#8212; not protecting men and fathers &#8212; is in practice the primary goal of most MRA and father&#8217;s rights groups.<\/p>\n<p>3) They&#8217;re just plain incompetent.<\/p>\n<p>As I&#8217;ve said <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/archives\/2007\/10\/16\/mens-legitimate-complaints\/\">before<\/a>, why, oh why, is the men&#8217;s rights movement so worthless?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(Crossposted on Alas and on TADA. If you&#8217;re not someone I know as a feminist, and you want to write in defense of MRAs, please take it to TADA.) In my prior post on a law that discriminates against fathers, &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=11412\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[95,135],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-11412","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-anti-feminists-and-their-pals","category-crossposted-on-tada"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11412","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=11412"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11412\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=11412"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=11412"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=11412"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}