{"id":11931,"date":"2010-12-17T02:50:38","date_gmt":"2010-12-17T09:50:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=11931"},"modified":"2010-12-17T02:50:38","modified_gmt":"2010-12-17T09:50:38","slug":"we-wouldnt","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=11931","title":{"rendered":"We Wouldn&#039;t"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In late 2007, I declared that the upcoming presidential election <a href=\"http:\/\/dsadevil.blogspot.com\/2007\/12\/this-election-is-about-torture.html\">&#8220;is about torture&#8221;<\/a>. I was wrong. It wasn&#8217;t. Despite my assertion <a href=\"http:\/\/dsadevil.blogspot.com\/2006\/02\/continuing-conversation.html\">that torture should stay in the public eye<\/a> until we come to terms with it and, ultimately, eradicate it, our preference towards inertia won out: We, as a people, desperately want to ignore this issue. We want to pretend it doesn&#8217;t happen. And unless there is a constant media blitz forcing Americans to come to terms with our torture policy, we&#8217;ll continue to ignore it.<\/p>\n<p>The soldier accused of leaking material to WikiLeaks is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.salon.com\/news\/wikileaks\/index.html?story=\/opinion\/greenwald\/2010\/12\/14\/manning\">currently being held in solitary<\/a>. He hasn&#8217;t been convicted of anything, and he wasn&#8217;t on suicide watch (though now apparently we have to pump him full of anti-depressants to keep his brain intact). There is a solid case to be made, one this made in chilling detail in The New Yorker, that long-term solitary confinement <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newyorker.com\/reporting\/2009\/03\/30\/090330fa_fact_gawande\">rises to the level of torture<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>But, as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/national\/archive\/2010\/12\/wikileaker-in-solitary\/68099\/\">Ta-Nehisi Coates points out<\/a>, the New Yorker&#8217;s question &#8212; is solitary confinement torture? &#8212; is no longer the most salient one. Years after Abu Gharib and waterboarding, years after a Bush administration that explicitly sanctioned torture and years into an Obama administration that has done its utmost to insure there is never any accountability for it, a more harrowing question emerges: Even if it is torture, would we even care?<\/p>\n<p>I think the answer is clear. No. We would not. Much as we <a href=\"http:\/\/dsadevil.blogspot.com\/2007\/02\/prison-rape-and-extra-legal-violence.html\">have with prison rape<\/a>, we, as a society, have come to terms with permitting torture of those we detain &#8212; convicts, military detainees, even the accused. It is now part of who we are as a nation. And it will take a great, soul-wrenching shift to turn us away from it.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In late 2007, I declared that the upcoming presidential election &#8220;is about torture&#8221;. I was wrong. It wasn&#8217;t. Despite my assertion that torture should stay in the public eye until we come to terms with it and, ultimately, eradicate it, &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=11931\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":38,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[135,39,64],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-11931","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-crossposted-on-tada","category-in-the-news","category-prisons-and-justice"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11931","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/38"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=11931"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11931\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=11931"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=11931"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=11931"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}