{"id":12033,"date":"2011-01-04T09:30:39","date_gmt":"2011-01-04T16:30:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=12033"},"modified":"2011-01-04T09:30:39","modified_gmt":"2011-01-04T16:30:39","slug":"an-interesting-comment-from-the-takeback","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=12033","title":{"rendered":"An Interesting Comment from The Takeback"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I have been reading through <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thetakeback.com\">The Takeback<\/a> and really liking a lot of what I read. In response to Iris Llevar&#8217;s post, <a href=\"http:\/\/thetakeback.com\/?p=174\">Editing Out Violent Masculinity<\/a>, Jim made a <a href=\"http:\/\/thetakeback.com\/?p=174#comment-16\">comment<\/a> that I think is worth discussing, both because of his resistance to the word &#8220;feminism&#8221;&#8211;which I don&#8217;t really agree with, but which is a lot more nuanced than much of the resistance to the term I have heard from other men&#8211;and because of what he says about framing men&#8217;s confrontation with our own privilege. I am quoting the comment in full, but it&#8217;s also worth going to read Llevar&#8217;s post.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>As a guy, I try to appreciate it when someone points out my \u201cmale  blindness,\u201d even if it\u2019s sometimes hard to hear.  Although I used to  identify as a feminist, I\u2019ve started to feel like there\u2019s some problems  with that label.  I think a lot of issues, like domestic violence, are  both women\u2019s and men\u2019s issues, and \u201cfeminism\u201d kind of makes it seem like  it\u2019s about the women alone.  Part of the reason it\u2019s hard to hear about  \u201cmale blindness,\u201d as a man is because it can force one to accept that  a) they have been living a privileged life, b) they may no longer be  able to enjoy those privileges guilt-free, and c) they have to figure  out a new way to be.  That all can be tough.  I don\u2019t want to equate  that effort with the struggle of women in abusive relationships in any  way, but I think that there needs to be a way to frame and reinforce the  journey from misogynist to better male.  If a woman leaves an abusive  relationship, she\u2019s a hero.  If a guy stops being abusive, it\u2019s good,  but there\u2019s no neat cultural narrative to describe that and normalize  that.  This is a problem I think, and it\u2019s a problem among men, and  there\u2019s a part of this that\u2019s an issue among men only.  I just feel like  the term \u201cfeminist\u201d has a lot of baggage associated with it, and while I  admire and respect many feminist thinkers, I don\u2019t know if that label  really captures the collaboration between men and women on making work  and love the way I want it to be.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have been reading through The Takeback and really liking a lot of what I read. In response to Iris Llevar&#8217;s post, Editing Out Violent Masculinity, Jim made a comment that I think is worth discussing, both because of his &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=12033\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":49,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[55],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-12033","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-men-and-masculinity"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12033","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/49"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=12033"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12033\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=12033"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=12033"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=12033"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}