{"id":13195,"date":"2011-04-26T09:57:37","date_gmt":"2011-04-26T16:57:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=13195"},"modified":"2011-04-26T10:18:45","modified_gmt":"2011-04-26T17:18:45","slug":"would-robert-george-recognize-a-trans-cis-marriage","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=13195","title":{"rendered":"Would Robert George Recognize a Trans-Cis Marriage?"},"content":{"rendered":"

[Crossposted on Family Scholars Blog<\/a>.]<\/em><\/p>\n

According to Robert George et al<\/a>, the reason same-sex couples can’t marry is that they’re unable to perform “conjungal acts” or “coitus”:<\/p>\n

The\u00a0spouses\u00a0seal (consummate)\u00a0 and renew their union by conjungal acts – acts that constitute the behavioral part of the process of reproduction, thus uniting them as a reproductive unit. […] Indeed, in the common law tradition, only coitus (not anal or oral sex even between legally wed spouses) has been recognized as consummating a marriage.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Note that it’s only the “behavioral part” — that is, “coitus,” which the dictionary <\/a>says is a “sexual union between a male and a female involving insertion of the penis into the vagina” — that matters to George. Whether or not pregnancy actually occurs is not relevant (which is why infertile het marriages are “real” marriages).<\/p>\n

Which makes me wonder: If Lucy and Schroeder get married; and if Lucy is a cis woman (“cis” is short for “cissexual<\/a>,” and means, in a nutshell, “not trans”) and Schroeder is a trans man; would their marriage be a “real” marriage, according to George and his cohorts? <\/p>\n

It certainly should <\/em>be, since Lucy and Schroeder fulfill the requirement; they can consummate their marriage with “acts that constitute the behavioral part of the process of reproduction.” <\/p>\n

But my guess is that Robert George and his fellow-travelers would come up with some rationalization excluding trans people from marriage. I wonder what the rationalization would be?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

[Crossposted on Family Scholars Blog.] According to Robert George et al, the reason same-sex couples can’t marry is that they’re unable to perform “conjungal acts” or “coitus”: The\u00a0spouses\u00a0seal (consummate)\u00a0 and renew their union by conjungal acts – acts that constitute … Continue reading →<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[135,112,90],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-13195","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-crossposted-on-tada","category-same-sex-marriage","category-transsexual-and-transgender-related-issues"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13195","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=13195"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13195\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":13201,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13195\/revisions\/13201"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=13195"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=13195"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=13195"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}