{"id":13604,"date":"2011-06-30T15:35:37","date_gmt":"2011-06-30T22:35:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=13604"},"modified":"2011-06-30T15:40:02","modified_gmt":"2011-06-30T22:40:02","slug":"circumcision-like-everything-else-is-complicated","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=13604","title":{"rendered":"Circumcision, like everything else, is complicated"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A couple of weeks ago, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.drmomma.org\/2011\/06\/russell-crowe-on-circumcision.html\">Peaceful Parenting<\/a> reported on some remarks Russell Crowe made about circumcision:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Circumcision is barbaric and stupid. Who are you to correct nature? Is it real that GOD requires a donation of foreskin? Babies are perfect&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>I have many Jewish friends. I love my Jewish friends&#8230; but stop cutting your babies. I will always stand for the perfection of babies. I will always believe in God, not man&#8217;s interpretation of what God requires.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Rather than tackle the very disturbing way Crowe approaches the issue &#8211; treating Jews as a monolith, accusing &#8220;us&#8221; of &#8220;cutting our babies,&#8221; telling us he knows more about God than we do, ignoring the fact that circumcision is as hotly debated within Jewish communities as it is without &#8211; Peaceful Parenting puts a stamp of approval on the whole thing:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Thank you for standing up on behalf of your own sons, and for boys the world over, Russell.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The comment thread follows the same trajectory: words like &#8220;barbaric&#8221; and &#8220;disgusting&#8221; abound, and one commenter claims that Crowe was silenced by the Jewish media.<\/p>\n<p>Stuff like this is the reason I don&#8217;t blog much anymore.<\/p>\n<p>The problem isn&#8217;t that people are anti-circumcision.  The problem is that they&#8217;re calling an ethno-religious group barbarians.  Look, I&#8217;ll just bring this out into the open: I&#8217;m more on the fence about circumcision than most people I know.  I know circumcised men who wish the procedure hadn&#8217;t been done, and I know others who don&#8217;t care, and still others who are glad they had it done and plan to do the same to their own sons.  There&#8217;s a lot to unpack in all of that, but there&#8217;s a more personal reason why I can&#8217;t join others in their absolutist stance: I worry that, because I don&#8217;t plan on circumcizing my son if I have one, he&#8217;s going to come to me someday and tell me that other Jews are ostracizing him for not being &#8220;Jewish enough&#8221; &#8211; just like I, as a half-Jew, have been ostracized by other Jews for not being &#8220;Jewish enough.&#8221;  I worry that he&#8217;ll face the same road as me: carefully navigating Jewish communities, always choosing whom to confide in, and for the most part keeping his dirty little secret to himself.<\/p>\n<p>For those of you who might be tempted to tell me there&#8217;s nothing stopping him from just getting it done when he&#8217;s older &#8211; well, first off, there&#8217;s the fear and pain of an irreversable medical procedure, which isn&#8217;t nothing, and secondly, anyone who&#8217;s ever been bullied knows that once you&#8217;ve been marked as an outsider, &#8220;fixing&#8221; yourself rarely undoes the damage.<\/p>\n<p>I think my children will be in a much more secure place than I was, as they&#8217;ll have a mother who will tell them in no uncertain terms that there&#8217;s no such thing &#8220;Jewish enough.&#8221;  But environments still have an impact on people, and when the time comes for me to say no to the procedure, I&#8217;ll be keenly aware of the possibility that I&#8217;ll be trading a physical scar for an emotional one.  Basically what I&#8217;m saying is that in order to address circumcision, you have to address the ramifications of <i>not<\/i> being circumcized.<\/p>\n<p>This is why pounding on our doors and yelling &#8220;Barbaric! Disgusting!  Stop it already!&#8221; doesn&#8217;t stop circumcision.  Rituals and practices stem from culture, and if you don&#8217;t respectfully educate yourself on and then address the culture, you&#8217;ll never change the practices.  The way I see it, if you want male circumcision to stop, there are two better ways to go about it: 1) you can either avoid framing it as a specifically Jewish issue (as circumcision is routinely performed for health and hygene reasons, as dubious as those reasons may be) and acknowledge that there&#8217;s a whole host of religious and cultural issues that maybe you&#8217;re not an expert on; or 2) if, for whatever reason, Jewish circumcision is what moves you, you can approach one of the Jewish movements, led by Jews, to stop Jewish circumcision, and ask how you can help.<\/p>\n<p>Really, I don&#8217;t know how you can expect to change things any other way.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A couple of weeks ago, Peaceful Parenting reported on some remarks Russell Crowe made about circumcision: Circumcision is barbaric and stupid. Who are you to correct nature? Is it real that GOD requires a donation of foreskin? Babies are perfect&#8230;. &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=13604\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":11,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[44,55],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-13604","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-jews-and-judaism","category-men-and-masculinity"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13604","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/11"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=13604"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13604\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":13611,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13604\/revisions\/13611"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=13604"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=13604"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=13604"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}