{"id":14489,"date":"2011-11-17T15:00:12","date_gmt":"2011-11-17T23:00:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=14489"},"modified":"2011-11-17T17:05:52","modified_gmt":"2011-11-18T01:05:52","slug":"prop-8-proponents-have-standing-to-defend-it-in-court","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=14489","title":{"rendered":"Prop 8 Proponents Have Standing To Defend It In Court"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.npr.org\/blogs\/thetwo-way\/2011\/11\/17\/142462886\/california-court-says-same-sex-marriage-opponents-may-defend-prop-8\">NPR Report<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.courtinfo.ca.gov\/opinions\/documents\/S189476.PDF\">The Full Decision<\/a><\/p>\n<p>I think this is the right decision.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m in favor of full legal equality for all citizens. I don&#8217;t believe that there is a legitimate state interest in restricting marriage rights to heterosexual couples. I believe that all the quasi-sophisticated arguments about the &#8216;essence&#8217; of marriage exist simply to mask naked homophobia. I believe that the heart of Proposition 8 can be reasonably described as &#8220;people who are not members of my religion ought to be compelled, <em>by force of law<\/em>, to comply with the dictates of my religion.&#8221; And, as ever, I am disgusted by the open and repeated lies Proposition 8 proponents spout about &#8220;changing the definition of marriage,&#8221; as if marriage was always one thing, and as if that one thing has always excluded same-sex couples, neither of which is true.<\/p>\n<p>But even bad ideas &#8230; even <em>the worst<\/em> ideas &#8230; deserve a fair day in court. Proposition 8 was voted on and passed by a majority of citizens of California, and though I believe it to be unconstitutional, that&#8217;s for a judge to decide. We oughtn&#8217;t make an end-run around proving it&#8217;s a bad law by disallowing anyone from arguing in court that it&#8217;s a good one.<\/p>\n<p>The remedy to speech we dislike is more speech, and I&#8217;ve found that the best arguments against Proposition 8 often come from merely letting its proponents speak freely. Let&#8217;s hear their best arguments. Let&#8217;s hear them loudly, clearly, and in public. It&#8217;s only through letting them speak, after all, that we can be certain that their <em>very best arguments<\/em> are, simply &#8230; bad.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Please do not comment unless you accept the basic dignity, equality, and inherent worth of all people.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>NPR Report The Full Decision I think this is the right decision. I&#8217;m in favor of full legal equality for all citizens. I don&#8217;t believe that there is a legitimate state interest in restricting marriage rights to heterosexual couples. I &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=14489\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[91,115,49],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-14489","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-free-speech-censorship-copyright-law-etc","category-homophobic-zaninessmore-lgbtq-issues","category-lesbian-gay-bi-trans-and-queer-issues"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14489","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=14489"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14489\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":14491,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14489\/revisions\/14491"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=14489"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=14489"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=14489"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}