{"id":15766,"date":"2012-08-27T03:45:52","date_gmt":"2012-08-27T10:45:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=15766"},"modified":"2012-08-28T00:41:55","modified_gmt":"2012-08-28T07:41:55","slug":"neither-church-nor-state-invented-gay-marriage-and-neither-can-take-it-away","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=15766","title":{"rendered":"Neither Church nor state invented gay marriage, and neither can take it away"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/cruse-1.gif\" alt=\"\" title=\"cruse-1\" width=\"600\" height=\"451\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-15767\" srcset=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/cruse-1.gif 600w, https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/cruse-1-550x413.gif 550w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.firstthings.com\/onthesquare\/2012\/08\/opposing-gay-marriage-is-rational-not-religious\">Via<\/a> Leroy Huizenga, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.archchicago.org\/blog\/comments.aspx?postID=276\">Archbishop of Chicago wrote<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Neither Church nor state invented marriage, and neither can change its nature. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I&#8217;ve heard similar comments from many other opponents of same-sex marriage. To some extent, I agree with the Archbishop.  If tomorrow morning Congress passed a law redefining the word &#8220;marriage&#8217; to mean &#8220;delicious circular bread which is boiled then baked,&#8221; no one would accept that a bagel is a marriage. The government cannot radically change the meaning of marriage.<\/p>\n<p>So why do millions of Americans accept that same-sex marriages are marriages?<\/p>\n<p>The first time I attended a same-sex wedding was 1986, long before any court or legislature was prepared to recognize same-sex marriage. A woman and a woman got married, and none of us needed a law passed to understand that it was a marriage. <\/p>\n<p>This was around the same time (give or take a few years) that the cartoonist <a href=\"http:\/\/www.howardcruse.com\/\">Howard Cruse<\/a>, in his groundbreaking comic strip &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Wendel-All-Together-Howard-Cruse\/dp\/1587540126\">Wendel<\/a>,&#8221; had his main characters Ollie and Wendel share a dream in which they were married, with all their friends and relatives in attendance. (And Smokey the Bear as the officiant). &#8220;Wendel&#8221; was published at first in a gay newspaper, and later in the nationwide gay magazine &#8220;The Advocate&#8221;; I doubt that any of Cruse&#8217;s thousands of readers had to have the concept of marriage between two men explained. Because it was too obvious to need explanation.<\/p>\n<p>Same-sex marriage was not invented in a courtroom, or a state congress. Lgbt people, and those who love them, knew about same-sex marriage years before the government knew about it. It came into being as a natural outgrowth of people&#8217;s lives.<\/p>\n<p>The Archbishop is correct to say that the government can&#8217;t change marriage. But that&#8217;s not what the marriage equality debate is about. For vast numbers of Americans, marriage has already changed (just as it&#8217;s changed many times before). <\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not going to stop considering my married same-sex friends married, no matter what the law says. Neither will millions of others. The Archbishop and his allies have no power to stop gay marriage.<\/p>\n<p>The only thing opponents of same-sex marriage can do is prevent the government from recognizing all these existing marriages. That hurts a lot. It hurts because it sends a message of rejection to all lgbt people. It also hurts on a practical level &#8212; it means same-sex couples and their children will sometimes be poorer, sometimes lack legal protection, sometimes be kept apart by immigration laws, sometimes be kept apart in hospitals. <\/p>\n<p>But no matter how much hurt they cause, it won&#8217;t mean, and will never mean, that same-sex marriage is not a reality.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what the Archbishop doesn&#8217;t understand: Neither Church nor state invented gay marriage, and neither can take it away.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Via Leroy Huizenga, the Archbishop of Chicago wrote: Neither Church nor state invented marriage, and neither can change its nature. I&#8217;ve heard similar comments from many other opponents of same-sex marriage. To some extent, I agree with the Archbishop. 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