{"id":1673,"date":"2005-07-11T11:00:03","date_gmt":"2005-07-11T18:00:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/archives\/2005\/07\/02\/we-knew-rove-was-a-big-mouth\/"},"modified":"2005-07-11T11:00:03","modified_gmt":"2005-07-11T18:00:03","slug":"roves-deception-update","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=1673","title":{"rendered":"Rove&#039;s Deceptions: Update"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>UPDATE (July 11, 2005):<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>So it would seem that O&#8217;Donnell was on target with the revelation of Karl Rove being the &#8216;source&#8217; that threw Valerie Plame to the press, however, the spin surrounding it is nauseating.  So here&#8217;s what the lawyers and the spin-doctors are saying via the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.latimes.com\/news\/nationworld\/world\/la-na-rove12jul12,0,2520574.story?page=2&#038;coll=la-home-headlines\">LATimes<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>According to Newsweek, Cooper and Rove discussed Wilson&#8217;s wife in the context of who at the CIA had been responsible for the trip. Cooper noted in the e-mail that Rove was trying to raise concerns about the credibility of Wilson&#8217;s report.<\/p>\n<p>Cooper wrote his bosses that Rove offered him a &#8220;big warning&#8221; not to &#8220;get too far out on Wilson,&#8221; saying that the trip had not been authorized by senior officials.<\/p>\n<p>Rather, &#8220;it was, KR said, [W]ilson&#8217;s wife, who apparently works at the agency on [weapons of mass destruction] issues who authorized the trip,&#8221; the e-mail stated, according to Newsweek.<\/p>\n<p>Luskin, Rove&#8217;s attorney, declined to confirm or deny the contents of the e-mail.<\/p>\n<p>But Luskin said in an interview Monday that Rove never identified Plame by name and never intended to reveal her identity. He said Wilson&#8217;s wife came up as an afterthought in a conversation that Cooper had initiated, primarily for a story about welfare reform.[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>At the same time, Luskin declined to say whether Rove knew that Plame was a covert agent, even if he did not know her name, which analysts said was a crucial factor in determining whether the law was broken.<\/p>\n<p>They also said that although Rove asserted he did not intend to disclose her identity, a jury might find otherwise based on other factors, such as whether he discussed Plame, even anonymously, with other reporters.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So lets recap on this.  Apparently in this day of information and technology when you can Yahoo or Google the phone number of someone in a foreign country, national media would find the reference &#8216;Wilson&#8217;s wife&#8217; to be unclear and are so incompetent as to not be able to find out her name?  Who&#8217;s buying this nonsense?<\/p>\n<p>How about the spin that she wasn&#8217;t &#8216;covert&#8217;?  So now we spend millions of taxpayers dollars on issues that could have been answered without a grand jury, simply by stating that she wasn&#8217;t covert?  Why bother with a grand jury at all if this was the case?  Well, in a nutshell, because she was covert and this is all about spinning at this point.<\/p>\n<p>The whole ordeal has left me so angry and outraged.  I&#8217;m just hopeful that people won&#8217;t let this one slide under the rug, like the rest of the nasty things that have occurred with this administration.  It&#8217;s time for some accountability.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>From July 2, 2005:<\/p>\n<p>Fresh off the press, it seems that political bombshells may well outshine the fireworks on the 4th of July.   In the past few weeks, liberals and progressives have concluded <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vanityfair.com\/commentary\/content\/articles\/050620roco03\">Karl Rove<\/a>, Deputy Chief of Staff and Senior Advisor had a big mouth &#8211; but just how big seems to be the new political bombshell looming on the horizon.<\/p>\n<p>Word has it that Lawrence O&#8217;Donnell, senior MSNBC political analyst claimed tonight on the syndicated show, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mclaughlin.com\/\">McLaughlin Group<\/a>, that the source behind the outing of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jimgilliam.com\/2004\/01\/vanity_fairs_profile_on_joseph_wilson_and_valerie_plame.php\">CIA agent Valerie Plame<\/a> is none other than the president&#8217;s right hand man, Rove.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;What we&#8217;re going to go to now in the next stage, when Matt Cooper&#8217;s e-mails, within Time Magazine, are handed over to the grand jury, the ultimate revelation, probably within the week of who his source is.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;And I know I&#8217;m going to get pulled into the grand jury for saying this but the source of&#8230;for Matt Cooper was Karl Rove, and that will be revealed in this document dump that Time magazine&#8217;s going to do with the grand jury.&#8221; <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So what will happen to Rove, should this statement by O&#8217;Donnell be proven true, considering revealing the identity of a CIA agent is a federal crime?  Perjury charges?  Treason charges?  A Bush pardon and business as usual?<\/p>\n<p>Interestingly enough, Joseph Wilson, former ambassador and husband to Ms. Plame named Rove as the source who leaked his wife&#8217;s name to the press from the beginning, was met with cynicism, disbelief and relative silence from that oh so &#8216;liberal&#8217; (tongue in cheek!) press of ours.   If Cooper does indeed name Rove as the source to the Grand Jury, I will be watching with fascination as to how the administration will wiggle out of this one.<\/p>\n<p>Oh, by the way Karl, Pope Boniface VIII left a message for you:<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8220;Silence is the genius of fools and one of the virtues of the wise.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the past few weeks, liberals and progressives have concluded Karl Rove, Deputy Chief of Staff and Senior Advisor had a big mouth.  And just how big seems to be the new political bombshell looming on the horizon. <a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=1673\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[102,27,92],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1673","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-conservative-zaniness-right-wingers-etc","category-elections-and-politics","category-whatever"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1673","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1673"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1673\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1673"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1673"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1673"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}