{"id":16945,"date":"2013-03-15T02:14:13","date_gmt":"2013-03-15T09:14:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=16945"},"modified":"2013-03-15T02:16:17","modified_gmt":"2013-03-15T09:16:17","slug":"just-because-i-believe-that-states-should-have-the-right-to-define-marriage-in-the-traditional-way-does-not-make-me-a-bigot","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=16945","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Just because I believe that states should have the right to define marriage in the traditional way does not make me a bigot.&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><center><a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/miquelsi\/2757027995\/\" title=\"Underwater shot by miquelsi, on Flickr\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/farm4.staticflickr.com\/3148\/2757027995_6547d8d13d.jpg\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" alt=\"Underwater shot\"><\/a><\/center><\/p>\n<p>At a conservative conference this week, Marco Rubio repeated a frequent complaint:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Just because I believe that states should have the right to define marriage in the traditional way does not make me a bigot.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/thinkprogress.org\/lgbt\/2013\/03\/14\/1721551\/rubio-denying-marriage-rights-to-gays-does-not-make-me-a-bigot\/\">The comments of ThinkProgress<\/a> are full of readers saying &#8220;Actually, yes, it does make you a bigot&#8221; and similar comments. Meanwhile, right-wing blogger Denny Burk <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dennyburk.com\/rubio-beats-a-retreat-at-cpac-on-traditional-marriage\">worries <\/a>that the comment indicates that Rubio &#8220;is beating a retreat&#8221; on same-sex marriage.<\/p>\n<p>My response:<\/p>\n<p>1) It would be a miracle if any American of my own and Marco Rubio&#8217;s generation (or earlier generations) was <em>not <\/em>a bigot, in the sense of harboring prejudices against lesbians and gay men. We were raised in an enormously homophobic culture, and it&#8217;s unrealistic to think that had no effect on us. It would be like living your whole life in an ocean but claiming to have never once gotten wet. <\/p>\n<p>2) Respecting Marco (or anyone else) does not require imagining that they are magically free of all prejudice and all vestiges of the culture they were raised in.<\/p>\n<p>3) I realize that Marco, and other conservatives, may have some other theory of bigotry. I&#8217;m willing to discuss this.<\/p>\n<p>4) The implicit demand that we consider Marco (and other conservatives, since Marco is not at all the only person to make this demand) to be completely 100% bigotry-free, or else we are incivil scoundrels who are proven unwilling to have a civil, respectful discussion, is unreasonable. It requires us (&#8220;us&#8221; in this case being people who think like me) to completely concede to the conservative view of bigotry before any discussion even begins.<\/p>\n<p>5) I do think that opposing marriage equality is a bigoted policy, in that it is a policy that cannot be justified without at least implicitly treating same-sex couples as if their lives, goals, and families are of secondary importance.<\/p>\n<p>But that doesn&#8217;t mean that I think those who endorse marriage equality are bad human beings. I think they&#8217;re mistaken, but who doesn&#8217;t make mistakes? (Indeed, since they disagree with me, they presumably also think I&#8217;m mistaken.)<\/p>\n<p>6) None of this is to deny that some folks on the pro-SSM side demonize our opponents. This happens. (On both sides, by the way). In some cases, what&#8217;s going on is well-justified anger, especially from folks who are themselves lesbian, gay or bi. In some cases, especially among straights, I think there&#8217;s some moral grandstanding going on. (Again, on both sides).<\/p>\n<p>But as a movement, we&#8217;d be wrong to write off SSM opponents as lost causes. The coming pro-SSM majority includes many people who are currently opposed to same-sex marriage. When you look at the speed of changing American opinion, it&#8217;s an unavoidable conclusion that every year, more SSM opponents become allies. <\/p>\n<p>I think that&#8217;s incredibly cheering. It shows that there are lots of same-sex marriage opponents who are not driven by hate, who are not implacably opposed to anything that makes lgb people happy, and who do find our side&#8217;s arguments about fairness and equal treatment compelling. <\/p>\n<p>They just need time. They were raised in a homophobic society, just like all of us. Thinking in a new way <em>takes time<\/em>. Realizing that something that was an unremarked and unremarkable <em>status quo<\/em> when we grew up is, in fact, unsustainable and unfair, <em>takes time<\/em>. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>At a conservative conference this week, Marco Rubio repeated a frequent complaint: Just because I believe that states should have the right to define marriage in the traditional way does not make me a bigot. The comments of ThinkProgress are &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=16945\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[112],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-16945","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-same-sex-marriage"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16945","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=16945"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16945\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":16948,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16945\/revisions\/16948"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=16945"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=16945"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=16945"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}