{"id":1771,"date":"2005-08-09T12:18:44","date_gmt":"2005-08-09T19:18:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/archives\/2005\/08\/09\/is-race-traitor-racist-depends-on-who-says-it\/"},"modified":"2005-08-09T12:18:44","modified_gmt":"2005-08-09T19:18:44","slug":"is-race-traitor-racist-depends-on-who-says-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=1771","title":{"rendered":"Is &quot;Race Traitor&quot; Racist? Depends on Who Says It"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In an earlier thread, trying to make the case that liberals are racist, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/archives\/2005\/08\/07\/what-do-her-tits-have-to-do-with-anything\/#comment-55667\">Niels Jackson wrote<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>If you think that liberals don&#8217;t use the term &#8220;race traitor,&#8221; you haven&#8217;t looked very hard.  Try reading up on what some liberals say about Clarence Thomas.  For example, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.manningmarable.net\/works\/sept02a.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Manning Marable explicitly says<\/a> that Thomas (and other conservative blacks) are race traitors.  So does a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailyhowler.com\/dh042505.shtml\" rel=\"nofollow\">book edited by two Georgetown professors<\/a>.  Use Google, and you&#8217;ll find plenty more references.  (Such as this <a href=\"http:\/\/margaretcho.net\/blog\/indefenseofmichellemalkin.htm\" rel=\"nofollow\">Margaret Cho<\/a> article about none other than Michelle Malkin, or <a href=\"http:\/\/www.blackcommentator.com\/27\/27_e_mail.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">this article<\/a> about Condi Rice.)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>David of the admirable blog The Debate Link (which currently has a good post, quoting an anonymous comment-writer, <a href=\"http:\/\/dsadevil.blogspot.com\/2005\/08\/buried-treasure.html\">criticizing left-wing racism<\/a>) seemed to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/archives\/2005\/08\/07\/what-do-her-tits-have-to-do-with-anything\/#comment-55767\">endorse Niels&#8217; links,<\/a> as well.<\/p>\n<p>I have to wonder if Niels and David even read the links in question. For instance, as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dailyhowler.com\/dh042505.shtml\">the Daily Howler link Niels provided explained<\/a>, the book edited by two Georgetown professors (<em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/tg\/detail\/-\/0813384281\/002-4411386-5246415?v=glance\">Words That Wound: Critical Race Theory, Assaultive Speech, and the First Amendment<\/a><\/em>) <i>didn&#8217;t<\/i> call Thomas or anyone else a &#8220;race traitor&#8221;; it <i>objected <\/i>to that sort of attack. As the Daily Howler &#8211; again, in the link Niels himself provided &#8211; points out, a Lexis-Nexis search found only one example  of Thomas being called a &#8220;race traitor&#8221; in any mainstream news outlet; clearly, the term was not commonly used.<\/p>\n<p>Although it&#8217;s true that Margaret Cho used the term &#8220;race traitor,&#8221; <a href=\"http:\/\/margaretcho.net\/blog\/indefenseofmichellemalkin.htm\">in context she used it ironically<\/a>; her point is that it&#8217;s a positive thing that Asians and people of color are free to be right-wingers nowadays, even though she finds Malkin&#8217;s view odious.  Cho writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I feel kind of proud, that racial politics have progressed to the point where we can have a young Asian American woman who doesn&#8217;t have to live within the constraints of a minority identity, which presumes liberal bias just by nature of the fact that if you are oppressed by the majority, you would want to place yourself against the majority.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Cho&#8217;s essay, along with other links Niels provided, shows that what&#8217;s going on is more subtle than right-wingers admit. There are liberals who call right-wing blacks &#8220;race traitors,&#8221; but the liberals in question are disproportionately people of color. More specifically (although Cho is an exception), they&#8217;re usually Black. &#8220;Race traitor&#8221; is not the typical vocabulary used by liberals when talking about non-white conservatives; but it&#8217;s sometimes part of the vocabulary used by Blacks when having debates that take place within the Black community.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t find Blacks using the term &#8220;race traitor&#8221; objectionable the way I&#8217;d find the same term used by whites (liberal or not) objectionable. It&#8217;s a little like when Chris Rock uses the word &#8220;nigger.&#8221; I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s acceptable for whites to say &#8220;nigger,&#8221; by and large. But at the same time, it&#8217;s not my place, as a white guy, to police the language Blacks use when having debates about Black identity politics within the Black community. That&#8217;s none of my business.<\/p>\n<p>Returning to the point, as far as I can tell, Black lefties are the <i>only <\/i>lefties to use the term &#8220;race traitor&#8221; with any regularity. It&#8217;s ridiculous for conservatives to imply that this is proof of widespread racism among lefties.<\/p>\n<p>Context &#8211; that is, what race the speaker is &#8211; does matter. It&#8217;s clear that when blacks use the word &#8220;nigger&#8221; or its derivatives, they&#8217;re not using it in the anti-black way it&#8217;s typically been used by white racists.  Similarly, the analogy between right-wing racists who have used &#8220;race traitor&#8221; (for whites who favored civil rights), and anti-racist Blacks who use the same term, doesn&#8217;t hold much water. Read<a href=\"http:\/\/www.manningmarable.net\/works\/sept02a.html\"> this Manning Marable essay Niels linked to<\/a>, for example:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>This conservative wing of the black middle class during the 1980s and 1990s, in effect, committed &#8220;racial suicide,&#8221;\u009d in the sense that it disavowed any sense of obligation, or &#8220;linked fates,&#8221;\u009d with what happens to the masses of disadvantaged African Americans. There is no sense of personal responsibility or accountability to a political project that is race-based. They wish to be judged as &#8220;individuals,&#8221;\u009d not as part of the larger &#8220;black community.&#8221;\u009d They explicitly reject any notions of the concept that their career advancement was largely a product of a mass, democratic movement to challenge structural racism. So in this limited sense, the reactionary wing of the black political elite has stopped being &#8220;black&#8221;\u009d in terms of its historical function as an oppositional group against racism. They are essentially &#8220;race traitors&#8221;\u009d: dedicated to the destruction of all racial categories, or even for some the collection of data indicating racial discrimination; critical of the liberal integrationist establishment; and enthusiastic boosters of capitalism as we know it.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Would anyone seriously argue that this is no different from a KKK rant?<\/p>\n<p>The bottom line is, blacks who argue about if Clarence Thomas is a &#8220;race traitor&#8221; are making an argument about solidarity, and trying to hold the line against racism. It&#8217;s not our place, as whites against racism, to tell Blacks what language they should or shouldn&#8217;t use; whether or not <em>I<\/em> like the term &#8220;race traitor,&#8221; in this context, is irrelevant. In contrast, whites who complain about white &#8220;race traitors&#8221; are hoping to protect the racist <em>status quo<\/em> (or return to an even more racist past). To claim that the two uses of &#8220;race traitor&#8221; are equal is to ignore the substance of the two positions, and reduces anti-racism to a fuss about vocabulary. No, thank you.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In an earlier thread, trying to make the case that liberals are racist, Niels Jackson wrote: If you think that liberals don&#8217;t use the term &#8220;race traitor,&#8221; you haven&#8217;t looked very hard. Try reading up on what some liberals say &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=1771\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[93],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1771","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-race-racism-and-related-issues"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1771","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1771"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1771\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1771"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1771"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1771"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}