{"id":1786,"date":"2005-08-29T10:29:06","date_gmt":"2005-08-29T17:29:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/archives\/2005\/08\/18\/unintelligent-design-now-unintelligent-falling\/"},"modified":"2005-08-29T10:29:06","modified_gmt":"2005-08-29T17:29:06","slug":"pedophilia-in-new-feminism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=1786","title":{"rendered":"Just blame feminism for female sex offenders"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>An article from <em>The Times<\/em> (in the U.K.) blames <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.timesonline.co.uk\/newspaper\/0,,170-1752671,00.html\">feminism for older women having sexual relations with underage boys<\/a><\/strong>. Well you just gotta put all the blame for women &#8220;behaving badly&#8221; on feminism, right? As everyone knows that if women just remained passive-submissive doormats, never ones to question the sociopolitical, economic, and cultural disparaging of their sex, then they would never commit disgusting crimes such as pedophilia. Whatever. The author of the article brings up <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Germaine_Greer\">Germaine Greer<\/a><\/strong>&#8211;personally I don&#8217;t know a hell of a whole lot of Greer or this &#8220;controversial&#8221; book of hers&#8217; called <em>&#8216;The Boy<\/em>&#8216; which is cited by the author. But considering the flippancy of the author&#8217;s tone and sentiments towards feminism in general, women, and his attempt to obviously blame feminism for sex-crimes committed by women, this is probably just another one of those poorly done anti-feminist screeds found in some journalism.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>IS THERE an element of paedophilia in the new feminism? There does seem to be an awful lot of it about these days. The coffee-table bible which provokes the thought is, of course, Germaine Greer&#8217;s 2003 book The Boy, a somewhat iffy collection of pictures of pre-pubescent lovelies from life and art, an illustrated paean of praise for the beauty of the young male presented as a feminist rallying cry for women&#8217;s right to ogle under-age male totty.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Really? Would this be Greer&#8217;s rallying cry or that of <strong>all<\/strong> feminists in general?  Or is this even Greer&#8217;s rallying cry at all? Because I don&#8217;t know about you, but for me there are two groups of males; those that are &#8220;<em>legal<\/em>&#8221; and those that &#8220;<strong>aren&#8217;t<\/strong>&#8220;. I don&#8217;t mess with those that &#8220;aren&#8217;t,&#8221; or even pay them much attention at all (considering the immaturity&#8211;especially towards girls and women&#8211;of a great many of them, but hell, even much older men can be worse). And if the book, <em>&#8216;The Boy&#8217;<\/em> is plastered with images of pre-pubescent, hence very much so underage males, then I be very disturbed by it, and why the hell would anyone publish such a thing in this day in age? I understand the premise of demolishing old social taboos forbidding [hetero] women to look and enjoy the male physique, much as a hetero male would enjoy looking at the female physique.  But I doubt and even very much disagree that you would need to demolish a sexual double standard and social taboo against women, using the images of pre-pubescent males as some kind of pseudo-kiddie-porn for women. That&#8217;s appalling, they&#8217;re kids. But I digress&#8230;..<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>According to the cover line, the book set out to demolish &#8220;one of the last great Western taboos&#8221;\u009d (not the one that says adults should curb any lascivious feelings they have towards the sexually under-age, but the sub-clause which, according to Greer, represents an oppressive restriction on grown-up women). Greer said she was out to &#8220;advance women&#8217;s reclamation of their capacity for, and right to, visual pleasure.&#8221;\u009d[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>The book has been described as &#8220;endearingly dotty&#8221;\u009d. However &#8230; packed as it is with the sort of images that, if they were of young girls and discovered on the hard disk of an ageing rock guitarist, would have him in the News of the World and on the sex offenders&#8217; register faster than you could say: &#8220;Hope I die before I get old&#8221;\u009d &#8230; &#8220;frankly dodgy&#8221;\u009d might have been a better description.<\/p>\n<p>Ironically, of course, with The Boy, Greer was unwittingly supporting the sexist proposition that a woman&#8217;s sexuality is not to be taken seriously; it is too weak to be predatory (not for nothing was &#8220;nothing&#8221;\u009d Elizabethan slang for the vagina) and besides, the Mrs Robinson syndrome is a male fantasy, right? Boys welcome such &#8220;seduction&#8221;\u009d as a rite of passage.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I believe that the idea of underage young males &#8220;wanting&#8221; to be &#8220;seduced&#8221; by older women mostly comes from and is even promoted by our male-sexual-fantasy driven culture and entertainment industry&#8211;which always arrogantly pressumes to know what we all want when it comes to sex and even what our sexual fantasies should be.  The crude phrase &#8216;MILF&#8217; comes to mind when it comes to this &#8220;Mrs. Robinson syndrome&#8221; and having a crush on your older female teacher, or best friend&#8217;s mother. Crushes are one thing&#8211;and normal, everyone has them&#8211;but the &#8220;object&#8221; of the crush using the infatuation of the underage person as an excuse to initiate sexual relations, is quite another&#8230;and illegal. And I seriously doubt that all young underage males fantasize about being &#8220;seduced&#8221; (which in this case dealing with minors, is a pretty word for &#8221; sexual assault&#8221; and even &#8220;rape&#8221;) by an older woman, or even willingly &#8220;welcome&#8221; such relations. But that&#8217;s what our sex-popular culture and even some guys tell us; it&#8217;s &#8220;hot&#8221; for young guys to have sex with their &#8220;sexy&#8221; female teachers, never mind that they&#8217;re underage and the teachers should know better then to commit a crime. But this is hardly the fault of feminism, though the author seems to suggest otherwise, due to a book written by a feminist. Because when social ills arise, blame feminism and the women&#8217;s liberation movement for it. Gee, it provides such a nice and convenient scape-goat.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The ghost of the damned phrase &#8220;contributory negligence&#8221;\u009d, idle since it was rightly exorcised from rape-case courtrooms, lurks stage left, and was heard clanking its chains again last week. Now, I know it isn&#8217;t done to have a pop at other columnists, but in the case of Minette Marrin in last week&#8217;s Sunday Times I am prepared to make an exception. Marrin&#8217;s article posed a curious defence (under the headline &#8220;A prisoner of sexual double standards&#8221;\u009d) of a female teacher who had been jailed for seducing a 14-year-old boy with whom she had embarked on a six-month affair. While conceding that what she had done was illegal, Marrin mounted a wondrous apologia for Hannah Grice, the female teacher, and concluded that the law had been a &#8220;misogynist prig&#8221;\u009d in giving her a 15-month prison sentence. The lad, you see, had been &#8220;very willing &#8220;\u009d and it wasn&#8217;t as if his 32-year-old seducer was actually the boy&#8217;s teacher, just a teacher at his school. Besides, she didn&#8217;t really seduce him &#8230; it started because he developed a crush on her. Virtually his fault, then.<\/p>\n<p>Marrin acknowledged: &#8220;As an underage person, he could not legally have consented&#8221;\u009d, but then added: &#8220;but it seems that in everyday understanding he did.&#8221;\u009d Anyway, she wrote, &#8220;boys of 14 vary; many of them are sexually mature young men, suffering not from shyness but from sexual longing&#8221;\u009d.<\/p>\n<p>Well, that&#8217;s all right then, case dismissed. Male children, it seems, are not to be given the same level of protection as girls from predatory teachers, so long as the teacher is a woman (despite the fact that the amendment of the Sexual Offences Act in 2003 made it a criminal offence for a teacher to have sex with a pupil under 18, let alone 15). Can you imagine the outcry if I defended some 32-year-old male teacher who&#8217;d been convicted for giving some flirty 14-year-old Lolita extra biology practical after class? No matter how much she&#8217;d been &#8220;asking for it&#8221;\u009d, Sir would have been in breach of a basic trust. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Yep, feminists don&#8217;t give two-shits about boys being raped by their female teachers, and we sure as hell don&#8217;t give a damn about sexual double standards&#8211;including the one that says all young underage males &#8220;welcome&#8221; sexual relations with older women no matter how illegal it is. I look at such cases being no different from male teachers raping underage female students. But then again, why do feminists have to spend up all of our time and energy placating to the needs of men and boys? Those mostly in control of what pop-culture and the entertainment industry says about sex and sexual fantasies (and what they should be) are men. They&#8217;re the ones saying that all young, vulnerable underage boys would just love it if their best friend&#8217;s mother would &#8220;seduce&#8221; them, and then the courts and law enforcement are stupid enough to buy into it, and so are the women defending themselves with this tripe. The author should be pointing the finger at those people, but no, let&#8217;s blame feminism and the women&#8217;s liberation movement because it&#8217;s so easy to blame them whenever women break the law, and don&#8217;t receive equal sentencing as their male counter-parts who commit the same crimes. Never mind those old chivalrous male judges and law enforcement officers, nope-nope.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>[&#8230;]Women, the poor, harmless creatures. Even when they&#8217;ve transgressed, one can&#8217;t blame them.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Right, because we&#8217;re dumbasses with no moral agency. In conclusion, obviously I call so much bullshit on this &#8220;women committing sex-crimes and getting away with it, and sexual double standards are all feminist women&#8217;s fault because of a book written by an Aussie feminist woman&#8221; article.  Just you&#8217;re usual screed blaming feminism for crimes committed by women, as if women never committed crimes even sex-crimes long before the word feminism was even coined. Next week, some journalist will blame feminism for puppy-killings.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>An article from The Times (in the U.K.) blames feminism for older women having sexual relations with underage boys. 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