{"id":1911,"date":"2005-10-28T11:00:24","date_gmt":"2005-10-28T18:00:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/archives\/2005\/10\/28\/have-anti-ssm-folks-changed-their-tune\/"},"modified":"2005-10-28T11:00:24","modified_gmt":"2005-10-28T18:00:24","slug":"have-anti-ssm-folks-changed-their-tune","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=1911","title":{"rendered":"Have Anti-SSM Folks Changed Their Tune?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Almost two years ago, I pointed out that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/archives\/2003\/12\/07\/since-when-has-heterosexual-intercourse-been-central-to-the-definition-of-marriage-since-sometime-after-2000-according-to-the-institute-for-american-values\/\">same-sex marriage opponents appear to be fitting their views of marriage around their opposition to SSM<\/a>. SSM opponents often suggest that the only purpose for marriage that matters is marriage&#8217;s &#8220;generative&#8221; function. But as recently as 2000, SSM opponent David Blankenhorn&#8217;s think tank published a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.marriagemovement.org\/mms_2000\/mms_2000.php\">&#8220;statement of principles&#8221;<\/a> &#8211; signed by many current SSM opponents, including Maggie Gallagher &#8211; which clearly took a much broader view of marriage&#8217;s purposes and benefits.<\/p>\n<p>Yesterday <a href=\"http:\/\/www.andrewsullivan.com\/index.php?dish_inc=archives\/2005_10_23_dish_archive.html#113043960887867724\">Andrew Sullivan,<\/a> who recently debated David Blankenhorn (audio file <a href=\"http:\/\/www.americanvalues.org\/Blankenhorn\/symposium05.ram\">here<\/a>), mentioned this seemingly shifting view of marriage among SSM opponents. <a href=\"http:\/\/familyscholars.org\/?p=5247\">David responded<\/a>:\n<pracut>\n<blockquote><p>&#8230;Anyone who reads the statement, <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.marriagemovement.org\/mms_2000\/mms_2000.php\">The Marriage Movement: A Statement of Principles<\/a><\/em>, to which Andrew refers, will see quite clearly that the statement views marriage as a social institution as intrinsically linked to bearing and raising the next generation. My colleagues and I have been making this point with great emphasis for many years.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>David has missed the point.<\/p>\n<p>The question isn&#8217;t if SSM opponents have been saying that marriage is linked to bearing the next generation &#8211; of course it is, and people have been saying so for ages. (No one in the marriage equality movement denies that marriage involves children, and is important to children; that children raised by same-sex couples should be raised by married parents is one of the most important arguments <em>for <\/em>SSM).<\/p>\n<p>But that&#8217;s not what SSM opponents have been saying, by and large. They&#8217;ve seen saying that the state&#8217;s <em>only <\/em>interest in regulating marriage is supporting heterosexual childbearing. And that&#8217;s simply not what David and other SSM opponents were saying five years ago.<\/p>\n<p>The &#8220;Statement of Principles&#8221; David links to includes a section entitled &#8220;Is Marriage a Private Matter? The Public Costs of Divorce,&#8221; which argues that supporting marriage is a legitimate goal of government. (I agree with David about that). Here&#8217;s part of what it says:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Is strengthening marriage a legitimate public goal?<\/p>\n<p>We believe that the answer is yes, for at least four reasons:<\/p>\n<p>1. Marriage protects the well-being of children;<\/p>\n<p>2. Divorce and unwed parenting generate large taxpayer costs;<\/p>\n<p>3. Marriage is a unique generator of social and human capital, as important as education in building the wealth of individuals and communities; and<\/p>\n<p>4. Only marriage creates a reasonable hope of permanence. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Does this involve children? Yes, of course it does.<\/p>\n<p>Does this support the view that the generative capacity of fertile heterosexual couples is the government&#8217;s <i>only <\/i>interest in marriage? Obviously not; the &#8220;Statement of Principles&#8221; makes it clear that the government has <i>multiple <\/i>interests in supporting marriage. The argument that heterosexual childrearing is the <em>one and only<\/em> reason for government to have an interest in marriage &#8211; so popular among SSM opponents today &#8211; contradicts what the marriage movement was saying just five years ago.<\/pracut>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Almost two years ago, I pointed out that same-sex marriage opponents appear to be fitting their views of marriage around their opposition to SSM. SSM opponents often suggest that the only purpose for marriage that matters is marriage&#8217;s &#8220;generative&#8221; function. &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=1911\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[112],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1911","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-same-sex-marriage"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1911","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1911"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1911\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1911"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1911"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1911"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}