{"id":20346,"date":"2015-09-29T03:15:43","date_gmt":"2015-09-29T10:15:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=20346"},"modified":"2015-09-29T03:38:17","modified_gmt":"2015-09-29T10:38:17","slug":"sarkeesians-you-suck-statement-at-the-un-was-not-what-anti-sjws-claim","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=20346","title":{"rendered":"Sarkeesian’s “You Suck” Statement At The UN Was Not What Anti-SJWs Claim"},"content":{"rendered":"

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So Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian, among others, were witnesses at the launch of the UN’s “Working Group on Broadband and Gender.” ((You can watch Sarkeesian’s statement here<\/a>; her bit begins 90 minutes into the video. Quinn is the speaker before Sarkeesian.))<\/p>\n

Ever since, right-wingers on social media have been claiming that Sarkeesian said that “you suck” is a form of cyberviolence, or that Sarkeesian said that people should be put in jail for saying “you suck,” etcetra. (Related: The 13 Most Ridiculous Things #GamerGaters Have Said About Anita and Zoe\u2019s UN Visit (Reddit Edition) | we hunted the mammoth<\/a>).<\/p>\n

My friend Cathy Young’s statement <\/a>is a typical example of the genre, milder than many, but notable because it comes from a respected anti-SJW writer.<\/p>\n

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FWIW I think some are too dismissive of threats to Sarkeesian. But when she tells UN being told “You suck” on the Internet is a form of “cyberviolence” that should be a cause of public concern, “professional victim” is not too harsh a label IMO.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I had to go searching for Sarkeesian’s actual statement, since – rather conveniently – not a single one of the many, many right-wingers who criticized the statement (that I read) either quoted it in full or linked to it. Here it is:<\/p>\n

I have been the target for 3 years nonstop of egregious online harassment in all levels. I think it’s important to recognize that harassment is, as someone had mentioned, it’s not just what is legal and illegal, right? Harassment is threats of violence, but it’s also the day to day grind of “you’re a liar,” “you suck,” making all these hate videos to attack us on a regular basis, and the mobs that come from those hate videos, etcetra.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Sarkeesian’s actual statement said that there are “levels” of harassment, explicitly distinguished between “violence” and “you suck” statements, and said that relatively mild abusive remarks, when they become a “day to day grind,” can be a form of harassment. This is all the polar opposite of what Cathy attributed to her – and, incidentally, so reasonable that it’s almost banal.<\/p>\n

Anyhow, I’m posting this here so I have something to point to this week, since I suspect I’m going to see this lie continue to come up a lot.<\/p>\n

P.S. By the way, I haven’t read it, but Jesse Singal convincingly argues that The U.N.\u2019s Cyberharassment Report Is Really Bad.<\/a> “Bad” as in poorly conceived, argued, and written. If that’s so, then that’s sad – what a wasted opportunity.<\/p>\n

P.P.S. Cathy responds to me on Twitter, in the replies to this tweet<\/a>. I don’t think her defense is convincing.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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