{"id":20915,"date":"2016-01-23T15:40:21","date_gmt":"2016-01-23T23:40:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=20915"},"modified":"2016-02-02T15:38:02","modified_gmt":"2016-02-02T23:38:02","slug":"these-vindictive-responses-to-students-saying-awful-things-are-disproportionate-and-wrong","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=20915","title":{"rendered":"These Vindictive Responses To Students Saying Awful Things Are Disproportionate And Wrong"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/desert-vista-six.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/desert-vista-six-590x581.jpg\" alt=\"desert-vista-six\" width=\"590\" height=\"581\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-20917\" srcset=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/desert-vista-six-590x581.jpg 590w, https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/desert-vista-six-300x295.jpg 300w, https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/desert-vista-six-940x925.jpg 940w, https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/desert-vista-six.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 590px) 100vw, 590px\" \/><\/a> <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.theroot.com\/articles\/news\/2016\/01\/phoenix_high_school_seniors_face_the_wrath_for_human_n_word_collage_school.html\">Six white seniors<\/a> at Desert Vista High School in Arizona took a photo of themselves wearing shirts that spelled &#8220;ni**er.&#8221; ((In this post, I&#8217;ve blurred the faces and omitted the names of the people I&#8217;m talking about; but that&#8217;s not true of the other people I&#8217;m linking to.))<\/p>\n<p>Understandably, students of color at Desert Vista are appalled at their classmates&#8217; behavior &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.azcentral.com\/story\/news\/local\/ahwatukee\/2016\/01\/22\/desert-vista-high-school-shirts-picture-racist\/79184076\/\">see the video at the top of this page<\/a> for some student reactions. The <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/dvhs_bsu\/status\/690643794849443840\">Desert Vista Black Student Union tweeted<\/a> that these six girls &#8220;do not represent the beliefs of the student body.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s also been a lot of anger on social media &#8211; the girls have been doxed, and people are spreading the girls&#8217; <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MaralinaAntonia\/status\/690634003544698880\">unblocked faces and names<\/a> on social media. There&#8217;s also a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.change.org\/p\/expel-desert-vista-high-school-students-and-fire-principal-for-anti-black-t-shirt-slur?recruiter=472966014&#038;utm_source=share_petition&#038;utm_medium=twitter&#038;utm_campaign=share_twitter_responsive\">petition with 17,000 signatures<\/a> calling for the girls to be expelled and the principal fired.<\/p>\n<p>This brings to mind the reaction to a video posted by the free speech group FIRE back in November, of students at Yale having a public square argument with Yale Professor Nicholas Christakis. ((There was a little discussion of the Yale situation <a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/2015\/11\/16\/open-thread-and-link-farm-interview-with-myself-edition\/\">in this open thread<\/a>.)) The argument was three hours long, but a<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=9IEFD_JVYd0\"> 90 second video FIRE posted<\/a> went viral. The video shows a young black student losing her temper and yelling loudly at Christakis, including swearing at him. <\/p>\n<p>The Yale student was doxed, and right-wingers rushed to spread her face and name on social media, calling for her to be expelled and even for her to be <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/donthirejerelynluther\/\">unemployable<\/a>. To the right-wings&#8217; credit, there was no petition with 17,000 signatures. To their discredit, the doxing and vindictiveness came not just from random people on the internet, but by respected Conservative publications and intellectuals, like <a href=\"http:\/\/dailycaller.com\/2015\/11\/09\/meet-the-privileged-yale-student-who-shrieked-at-her-professor\/\"><em>The Daily Caller<\/em><\/a> (which initially doxed the student, including her home address), <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/nro\/status\/664250672154591232\"><em>The National Review<\/em><\/a>, and <em>The American Conservative<\/em>&#8216;s Rod Dreher, who <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theamericanconservative.com\/dreher\/sjw-of-the-year-yale\/comment-page-1\/#comment-7700654\">called <\/a>for the student to be expelled (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.theamericanconservative.com\/dreher\/lying-to-yale-alumni\/\">twice<\/a>). The conservative blog <a href=\"http:\/\/victorygirlsblog.com\/yale-shrieking-girl-identified-as-jerelyn-luther-video\/\">Victory Girls<\/a> gloated &#8220;Sorry, Ms. ******, but the internet is forever.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>What do these two things have in common? Although I don&#8217;t approve of screaming at people in public, what the Yale student did &#8211; which was basically, to lose her temper for a few minutes &#8211; wasn&#8217;t even in the same <em>league <\/em>of wrongness as the smirking racism of the Desert Vista students. <\/p>\n<p>But the responses are very similar. And they&#8217;re wrong.<\/p>\n<p>Young people should be able to make mistakes without their faces and names becoming a national issue. It&#8217;s unreasonable to try to turn a student&#8217;s bad act into a permanent scarlet letter.<\/p>\n<p>Whatever consequences these students suffer, should be proportionate to what they did &#8211; and should be up to the local community and to their schools. It should not be up to random internet &#8220;activists&#8221; &#8211; or, worse, to the <em>Daily Caller<\/em> &#8211; to vindictively seek to punish students. In both cases, I&#8217;ve seen people gleefully hoping that the students&#8217; lives will be destroyed by the publicity. That this sort of reaction is <em>vastly disproportionate<\/em> to the offense never seems to be a concern.<\/p>\n<p>When I was a teenager attending Oberlin College, I once got into a shouting match in public with Catherine MacKinnon, who was visiting Oberlin to make a speech. Well, not a &#8220;shouting match&#8221; &#8211; Professor MacKinnon kept her tone level. <em>I<\/em> shouted. I&#8217;m a bit embarrassed to think of it now. (In the unlikely event that I ever meet MacKinnon again, I&#8217;ll apologize to her.)<\/p>\n<p>But you know what? I was eighteen. I did something stupid. And, thankfully, this was before smart phones and before YouTube, so no videos exist. I was allowed to be stupid and to get past it and to grow. Today&#8217;s students should get the same chance.<\/p>\n<p>UPDATE: The &#8220;expel them!&#8221; petition is now at nearly 50,000 signatures, I&#8217;m sorry to say.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Six white seniors at Desert Vista High School in Arizona took a photo of themselves wearing shirts that spelled &#8220;ni**er.&#8221; ((In this post, I&#8217;ve blurred the faces and omitted the names of the people I&#8217;m talking about; but that&#8217;s not &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=20915\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[26,91,163,93],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-20915","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-education","category-free-speech-censorship-copyright-law-etc","category-norms-of-discourse","category-race-racism-and-related-issues"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20915","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=20915"}],"version-history":[{"count":18,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20915\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":20988,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20915\/revisions\/20988"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=20915"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=20915"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=20915"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}