{"id":2097,"date":"2002-10-14T05:28:08","date_gmt":"2002-10-14T12:28:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=2097"},"modified":"2002-10-14T05:28:08","modified_gmt":"2002-10-14T12:28:08","slug":"is-this-cartoon-objectively-pro-terrorist","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=2097","title":{"rendered":"Is This Cartoon Objectively Pro-Terrorist?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Shortly after September 11th 2001, my pal <a href=\"http:\/\/www.incontemptcomics.com\/index.html\">Kevin<\/a> &#8211; whose <a href=\"http:\/\/www.incontemptcomics.com\/links.html\">links<\/a> page compliments me by comparing me to a fart, bless his heart &#8211; drew this <a href=\"http:\/\/www.incontemptcomics.com\/poltoons091701.html\">cartoon<\/a>, which is my favorite of all the political cartoons I read that week.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/images\/andthenwhat.gif\" class='centered'  \/><\/p>\n<p>(You can view a <a href=\"http:\/\/zena.secureforum.com\/cartoons\/show_toon.cfm?toonID=408&#038;toonList=1942,1939,1932,1933,1829,1820,1811,1812,1796,1790,1779,1744,1668,1660,1651,1623,1613,1600,1593,1573,1567,1555,1550,1543,1542,1525,1511,1509,1502,1496,1481,1477,1473,1466,1461,1455,1436,1429,1413,1411,1405,1400,1379,1365,1359,1351,1339,1340,1341,1314,1299,1234,1235,1222,1212,1201,1192,1179,1172,1155,1142,1133,1126,1111,1095,1083,1073,1063,1056,1047,1032,1023,1013,1014,995,990,971,966,959,948,942,895,877,871,857,848,840,836,798,722,694,687,669,664,650,645,631,615,605,584,575,572,557,550,543,537,531,507,499,494,490,471,466,454,440,435,430,429,410,408,399,381,377,371,363,354,351,327,320,321,322,323,324,326,325&#038;index=by_artist.cfm&#038;artist=18\">larger version of Kevin&#8217;s cartoon here<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>Now <a href=\"http:\/\/www.instapundit.com\/archives\/004616.php#004616\">Instapundit<\/a> says the cartoon is &quot;monstrous,&quot; because (he says) the two scenes aren&#8217;t equivalent.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d say Glenn is being comics-illiterate. Kevin drew the cartoon at a low angle &#8211; the point of view is exactly the height of a child&#8217;s eyes &#8211; with a child&#8217;s head at the center of each panel. To anyone who knows how to read cartoons, this means the scene is being viewed from a child&#8217;s perspective.<\/p>\n<p>And from a child&#8217;s point of view, the two scenes <em>are<\/em> equivalent. In both cases, outsiders are brutally killing people for reasons that children know nothing about.<\/p>\n<p>That Glenn thinks it&#8217;s relevant that an adult law professor sees a big difference, suggests that Glenn doesn&#8217;t understand the cartoon.<\/p>\n<p>Killing innocents is what&#8217;s monstrous, Glenn. And even <em>if<\/em> the actions that kill innocents are justified, necessary, and unavoidable, it&#8217;s <em>still<\/em> monstrous to kill innocents. Pointing out this truth &#8211; a truth that children understand quite well &#8211; is <em>not<\/em> monstrous As <a href=\"http:\/\/markarkleiman.blogspot.com\/2002_10_01_markarkleiman_archive.html#85553542\">Mark Kleiman<\/a> says, &quot;If you&#8217;re not willing to kill a bunch of people who haven&#8217;t done anything in particular to deserve it, then you&#8217;re not ready to wage war.&quot;<a style=\"text-decoration:none\" href=\"\/index.php?p=viagra-36-hour-online\">.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Shortly after September 11th 2001, my pal Kevin &#8211; whose links page compliments me by comparing me to a fart, bless his heart &#8211; drew this cartoon, which is my favorite of all the political cartoons I read that week. &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=2097\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[17,40],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2097","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-cartooning-comics","category-international-issues"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2097","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2097"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2097\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2097"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2097"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2097"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}