{"id":2249,"date":"2006-04-11T00:19:07","date_gmt":"2006-04-11T07:19:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/archives\/2006\/04\/11\/rape-isnt-the-only-crime-that-pits-one-persons-word-against-anothers\/"},"modified":"2006-04-11T00:19:07","modified_gmt":"2006-04-11T07:19:07","slug":"rape-isnt-the-only-crime-that-pits-one-persons-word-against-anothers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=2249","title":{"rendered":"Rape isn&#039;t the only crime that pits one person&#039;s word against another&#039;s"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s often stated that rape is unusual, and hard to convict, because it so often involves &#8220;he said\/she said&#8221; testimony. One person&#8217;s word against another: he says it was consensual, she says it was rape.<\/p>\n<p>But I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s all that unique.<\/p>\n<p>Imagine that Bob comes to trial for being a drug dealer. Officer Jane testifies that Bob offered to sell her some coke. Bob says that&#8217;s a lie, and that the coke on him when Jane arrested him was actually planted by Jane.<\/p>\n<p>Why is it that no one would call this case &#8220;he said\/she said,&#8221; as rape cases are so often called?<\/p>\n<p>My example is not unrealistic; there&#8217;s been at least one <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/158648219X\/ref=wl_it_dp\/002-4411386-5246415?%5Fencoding=UTF8&#038;colid=UVT84R6CAIRU&#038;coliid=I15RX8EJWCT0RQ&#038;v=glance&#038;n=283155\">high-profile case<\/a> of dozens of innocent people (nearly all black, surprise surprise) being convicted this way.<\/p>\n<p>So why doesn&#8217;t anyone say that drug possession is a unique crime because a person can go be sent to prison for drug possession, based solely on another person&#8217;s word? Why does no one <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/archives\/2006\/04\/03\/duke-rape-case-regarding-innocent-until-proven-guilty\/\">say <\/a>&#8220;drug dealing is a serious charge; it is easy to make, difficult to defend&#8221;?  Why does no one fret about the damage to the principle of &#8220;innocent until proven guilty&#8221; when someone goes to prison for selling drugs based on someone else&#8217;s word?<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s a principled reason that the process of a jury hearing testimony and weighing credibility &#8211; which is routinely accepted in thousands of non-rape cases &#8211; becomes so suspicious and deplorable when the crime is rape. Rather, I think the difference is just evidence that our culture trusts cops but doesn&#8217;t trust women.<\/p>\n<p>Now, as it happens, I&#8217;m not totally comfortable with sending someone to prison based on assessment of credibility, because &#8220;credibility&#8221; is something that is so easily given or withheld based on factors that should be irrelevant (race, gender, class, looks, etc). But it&#8217;s still appalling that this concern is constantly brought up in cases involving rape, but rarely or never in cases involving other crimes. If &#8220;she said\/she said&#8221; is problematic, then it should be problematic in <em>all <\/em>cases, not just in rape cases.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>This thread is for feminist and pro-feminist posters only. If you don&#8217;t think you&#8217;d fit into Amp&#8217;s conception of &#8220;feminist and pro-feminist,&#8221; and you wish to make a comment, you may do so at <a href=\"https:\/\/creativedestruction.wordpress.com\/2006\/04\/11\/rape-isnt-the-only-crime-that-pits-one-persons-word-against-anothers\/\">the Cross-post on Creative Destruction<\/a>.<\/strong><\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s often stated that rape is unusual, and hard to convict, because it so often involves &#8220;he said\/she said&#8221; testimony. One person&#8217;s word against another: he says it was consensual, she says it was rape. But I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=2249\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[96],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2249","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-rape-intimate-violence-related-issues"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2249","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2249"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2249\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2249"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2249"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2249"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}