{"id":23059,"date":"2017-05-28T22:25:24","date_gmt":"2017-05-29T05:25:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=23059"},"modified":"2017-05-28T22:29:00","modified_gmt":"2017-05-29T05:29:00","slug":"on-christian-marclays-rriipp-and-swiping-from-comics","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=23059","title":{"rendered":"On Christian Marclay&#8217;s &#8220;Rriippp&#8221; And Swiping From Comics"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A page from the first issue of a comic book called <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/M-C-Vol-Omactivate-New\/dp\/1401234828\">O.M.A.C.<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/OMAC-page.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/OMAC-page-300x462.jpg\" alt=\"OMAC page\" width=\"300\" height=\"462\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23060\" srcset=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/OMAC-page-300x462.jpg 300w, https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/OMAC-page-768x1183.jpg 768w, https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/OMAC-page-590x909.jpg 590w, https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/OMAC-page-940x1449.jpg 940w, https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/OMAC-page.jpg 1440w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The credits for that issue: <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/OMAC-splash-page.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/OMAC-credits-590x73.jpg\" alt=\"OMAC-credits\" width=\"590\" height=\"73\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-23062\" srcset=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/OMAC-credits-590x73.jpg 590w, https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/OMAC-credits-300x37.jpg 300w, https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/OMAC-credits-768x95.jpg 768w, https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/OMAC-credits-940x116.jpg 940w, https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/OMAC-credits.jpg 1317w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 590px) 100vw, 590px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Okay, now here&#8217;s a print by a very famous artist named Christian Marclay. (You may have heard of Marclay&#8217;s film &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/The_Clock_(2010_film)\">The Clock<\/a>,&#8221; which sounds incredibly cool.) The print is called &#8220;Rriippp.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Christian_Marclay_Rriippp.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Christian_Marclay_Rriippp-300x432.jpg\" alt=\"Christian_Marclay_Rriippp\" width=\"300\" height=\"432\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-23063\" srcset=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Christian_Marclay_Rriippp-300x432.jpg 300w, https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/Christian_Marclay_Rriippp.jpg 556w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/droog811\/status\/869028288802500609\">Pat Brosseau<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/brokusatsu\">Julian Matthew<\/a> identified the source for Marclay&#8217;s print. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/whitecube.com\/shop\/editions\/christian_marclay_rriippp\/\">The print is for sale online<\/a> for \u00a32040.00, or US$2600. From the gallery website&#8217;s description of &#8220;Rriipp&#8221;:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In this four-colour silk-screen print, produced to coincide with his solo exhibition at White Cube Bermondsey, Christian Marclay continues his long-standing focus on the relationship between image and sound. The work features the word &#8216;Rriippp&#8217;, an onomatopoeic image lifted from a comic book. Treating the word as though it were a score, Marclay has carried out the action it suggests and dramatically torn the print in half. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8220;An onomatopoeic image lifted from a comic book.&#8221; So Marclay isn&#8217;t claiming to have drawn this image himself. But what&#8217;s not mentioned is the comic it&#8217;s &#8220;lifted&#8221; from; nor are the artists who produced the original that Marclay &#8220;lifted&#8221; credited. <\/p>\n<p>I think what Marclay did here is, and should be, legal. He did add to and change the piece, enough to be fair use. (Admittedly, I favor a very liberal definition of &#8220;fair use&#8221;). And he also added a reputation, built up over many years; it is because of that reputation that &#8220;Rriippp&#8221; is a credible work of fine art that is sold for $2600.<\/p>\n<p>But something can be legal without being ethical. Marclay didn&#8217;t draw this himself; he copied from artists who have collectively spent decades developing their skills. Marclay had an ethical obligation to credit those artists, by name, and he failed to do that.<\/p>\n<p>Gallery artists have been swiping from comics for years, of course, most famously <a href=\"http:\/\/davidbarsalou.homestead.com\/LICHTENSTEINPROJECT.html\">Roy Lichtenstein<\/a>, and more generally putting odd pieces of commercial design &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Fountain_(Duchamp)\">urinals<\/a>, or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.moma.org\/learn\/moma_learning\/andy-warhol-campbells-soup-cans-1962\">soup cans<\/a> &#8211; into galleries and museums.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s an old idea: The artist takes something disposable or overlooked, and by putting it in a &#8220;high art&#8221; context, makes viewers consider it as art. ((<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/radicalbytes\/status\/869037001227386880\">Counterpoint from Jonathan McIntosh<\/a>: &#8220;The ripped page seems like more of a comment on commercialized art in the Dadaism style.&#8221;)) But it&#8217;s decidedly out-of-touch to use comic books this way, in this day and age. It&#8217;s no longer unusual to acknowledge comic books as art, and it&#8217;s not even unusual to see comic book pages displayed in art galleries. There are even galleries that specialize in comic book art.<\/p>\n<p>When Marclay &#8220;lifts&#8221; a comic panel and puts it in a fine art context and in effect says &#8220;<em>look, I&#8217;ve made it art<\/em>&#8220;&#8230; Well, <strong>duh<\/strong>. It was <em>already <\/em>art. Marclay has just made it <em>expensive <\/em>art.<\/p>\n<p>* * *<\/p>\n<p>Two postscript points:<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m actually not certain the credits for O.M.A.C. list the creator of one essential element of &#8220;Rriippp&#8221;: The letters might have come from a commercial font, designed by someone who isn&#8217;t credited in the book. Then again, it might have been designed by the letterer.<\/p>\n<p>Secondly, and too ironic not to mention: O.M.A.C. co-creator Keith Griffen, back in the 80s and 90s, swiped some panels from Argentine cartoonist <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Jos%C3%A9_Antonio_Mu%C3%B1oz\">Jos\u00e9 Mu\u00f1oz<\/a>. Giffen has said that they were not deliberate swipes, but just a result of how deeply he was immersed in Mu\u00f1oz&#8217;s style. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A page from the first issue of a comic book called O.M.A.C.. The credits for that issue: Okay, now here&#8217;s a print by a very famous artist named Christian Marclay. (You may have heard of Marclay&#8217;s film &#8220;The Clock,&#8221; which &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=23059\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[17,216,62],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-23059","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-cartooning-comics","category-comics-other-than-hereville","category-popular-and-unpopular-culture"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/23059","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=23059"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/23059\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":23066,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/23059\/revisions\/23066"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=23059"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=23059"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=23059"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}