{"id":2531,"date":"2006-07-14T15:21:23","date_gmt":"2006-07-14T22:21:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/archives\/2006\/07\/14\/i-still-want-my-period\/"},"modified":"2006-07-14T15:21:23","modified_gmt":"2006-07-14T22:21:23","slug":"i-still-want-my-period","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=2531","title":{"rendered":"I Still Want My Period"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>(Warning: This post is really long.  Primarily because it took me about 3-4 weeks to write and research.)<\/p>\n<p>Well, It seems like menstruation has been the hot topic on feminist blogs for the past few months, and I wanted to follow-up on my previous post about using hormonal birth control to suppress menstruation. For those of you who missed the earlier post <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/archives\/2006\/05\/23\/i-want-my-period-at-least-until-menopause\/\">here it is at Alas<\/a> and at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rachelstavern.com\/?p=18\">Rachel&#8217;s Tavern<\/a>. My concerns about menstrual suppression revolved around three issues 1)the lack of studies of the long term health effects of this 2)the possibility that women may get pregnant and not know about it in time to get adequate prenatal care or have access to abortion and 3)the marketing and framing of menstruation as abnormal bad or gross. If I were to prioritize those three things, the last one is the one that I am most concerned about, and that is the one I would like to emphasize in this post.<\/p>\n<p>Amanda over at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pandagon.net\/\">Pandagon<\/a> took exception to my view, and made this argument:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The problem isn&#8217;t discussing one&#8217;s feelings about it or anything like that, but I have a big, fat problem with the kneejerk assumption that &#8220;natural&#8221; is more valuable than \u201cunnatural\u201d. Every time someone praises menstruation as something that makes them feel like a woman or whatever, I wonder if they\u2019re working for Tampax or something.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The only problem with that argument was that it was not my point. If I was making that argument, I think she has a valid point. I try very consciously to avoid the term &#8220;natural&#8221;&#8211;things like poison ivy and stinging nettles natural. The natural framework is problematic. First, off you\u2019d be hard pressed to get people to agree on what is natural, and second we can\u2019t assume that things that are &#8220;natural&#8221; are necessarily better than things that are created by people. I also think there are just as many people making money off menstruation as there will be on stopping menstruation. Whether you think a period is &#8220;natural&#8221; or not, we do need to understand that there is nothing abnormal about periods.<\/p>\n<p>One commenter defended my position very well. <a href=\"http:\/\/lubu.blogspot.com\/\">La Luba<\/a> said,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>But traditionally, it is the <em>male<\/em> body that has been viewed as &#8220;normal&#8221; or &#8220;natural,&#8221; and the <em>female<\/em> body that is viewed as abnormal, unnatural, cursed, in need of &#8220;fixing.&#8221; Arguments like this are really intended to reclaim the female body as OK in its own right; that there isn\u2019t something wrong with us, simply because our bodies aren\u2019t male.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m not attached to &#8220;natural&#8221; as meaning &#8220;completely without medical intervention.&#8221; But I\u2019m very suspicious of an effort by Big Pharma to focus the marketing of this pill formula towards women <em>without<\/em> problem periods. The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend. <strong>There is a lot of effective right-wing organizing towards abolishing birth control; Big Pharma is reacting to that by targeting the market in a way they <em>know<\/em> will have a positive effect on their bottom line&#8211;by reminding women of the negative aspects of their periods. <em>That<\/em> will create a demand. Women who wouldn\u2019t dream of fighting for their right to control when and if they get pregnant will <em>definitely<\/em> get out in the streets to demand the right to live without a period<\/strong>&#8211;and don\u2019t think for a minute that has nothing to do with the history of how women, and our menstruation, has been viewed.<br \/>\nColor me skeptical.<\/p>\n<p>And yes, the fact that many women aren\u2019t aware that &#8220;periods&#8221; while on the pill speaks to the fact that we are taught to be divorced from our bodies and their functions\u2014that we are taught that our bodies are for <em>being seen<\/em> and being &#8220;done to,&#8221; rather than being active. I\u2019m seeing this issue against a backdrop of how women\u2019s bodies are viewed and treated, and I see Rachel\u2019s point about semen. Semen has never been traditionally viewed with the negativity menstrual blood has. We haven\u2019t heard semen referred to as &#8220;the curse&#8221; our whole lives.<\/p>\n<p>I can\u2019t see the marketing of this pill as being any different from the marketing of say, breast implants, or plastic surgery. Restorative breast implants and plastic surgery can make sense for cancer patients, or burn patients\u2026.but is this something the rest of us need, or should want? No one would question this \u201cchoice\u201d if periods had been traditionally viewed through a neutral lens, as neither good nor bad, just <em>there<\/em>. That\u2019s not the backdrop we\u2019re working with here. Especially considering the religious overtones of \u201cunclean\u201d menstruating women; of \u201chysterical\u201d, \u201cunstable\u201d menstruating women. Those myths are still out there. We are still fighting those myths. Whether or not an individual woman makes the choice to take this pill is immaterial. But whether this pill is seen as a \u201cmagic bullet\u201d to rid us of the \u201chysterical\u201d myth is very material. I don\u2019t want a future of \u201cbut of course women are just as capable as men! we\u2019re not hysterical anymore, ever since the pill! It\u2019s only those women who <em>don\u2019t<\/em> take the pill who are hysterical!!\u201d arguments. There\u2019s plenty of pseudo-feminists who would ride that train. (not that it would work. the bars would just be moved again.\u2014but that\u2019s another reason these conversations are necessary.)<br \/>\nI\u2019m not saying that having this pill as an option is adding fuel to these fires. This pill is neutral, in and of itself. I\u2019m saying it\u2019s well worth questioning the <em>why<\/em> of this option. There are good reasons for making this choice, to take this pill. There are also good reasons for making the choice to <em>not<\/em> take this pill. Guess which choice is likely to be validated in an antifeminist, capitalist society such as we live in? A world where plastic surgeons make sales pitches in health clubs, because working out isn\u2019t \u201cenough\u201d to make a woman \u201cbeautiful?\u201d A world where women are more likely to swallow a man\u2019s semen after oral sex than men are to perform oral sex on a menstruating woman (why is menstrual blood generally considered \u201cickier\u201d than semen, hmm? wouldn\u2019t have anything to do with the fact it comes out of a female body, would it?).<\/p>\n<p>Natural hell. That\u2019s not the bottom line for me.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Later LaLuba, also added the following comment which I agree with,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Who here is fetishizing \u201cnatural&#8221; I don\u2019t have high blood pressure; does that mean I\u2019m fetishing the concept of \u201cnatural\u201d if I don\u2019t take high blood pressure medicine?<br \/>\nI haven\u2019t really noticed a mainstream tendency to fetishize natural. The mainstream tendency is to fetishize the \u201cbetter living through chemistry\u201d. And women\u2019s bodies are the favorite battleground. For all the mention of fetishizing \u201cnatural\u201d, I have yet to hear of a bottle-feeding mother being asked to leave a public place for not breastfeeding. It\u2019s breastfeeding mothers who are regarded as disgusting, animalistic, filthy, unsanitary, and a public health hazard. Not to mention just plain slutty broads who want to show their tits. I have yet to see much cultural support for women who aren\u2019t getting the full intervention workup. And yes, part of that is because historically, <em>women<\/em> were\/are viewed as being closer to \u201canimal\u201d nature than men. I don\u2019t like fuzzy-headed la-la arguments about some amorphous concept of what is-or-is-not \u201cnatural\u201d either, but dammit, we <em>are<\/em> pressured to tamper with our bodies more than men are, and for specious reasons. Like I said before, there are good reasons for choosing this particular version of the Pill (in reality, a continous dose of the same-old-same-old Pill), but there are also good reasons not to. And women who choose not to are likely to be regarded as unclean freaks, the same way breastfeeding mothers are.<br \/>\nLook. This Pill has been around for generations. There\u2019s a reason it is being marketed in this way, at this time. And it\u2019s because of the pre-existing disgust women were taught to feel about our bodies. Yes, blood stains clothing. Yet people in general do not feel the same way about a bloody nose and a bloody cunt. There is a special revulsion reserved for menstruation. Why? It\u2019s not just about the bloodstains.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I think we need to take a particularly strong stand against the phenomenon that La Luba addresses (in the bold writing). I strongly agree with this proposition. Marketing anti-period or no period pills really is really an ingenious way to help the fight against birth control. I can\u2019t tell you how many young women I know who swear they take birth control pills ONLY to regulate their periods or cut down on period cramps. They say this because they know it is much more acceptable to say, \u201cI am trying to feel better during my period\u201d than it is to say \u201cI\u2019m having sex, and I don\u2019t want to get pregnant.\u201d I\u2019m not chiding people for taking BCP to cut down on painful periods. I\u2019m just pointing out that the \u201cick\u201d fact associated with periods is something that the right wing embraces, and feminists need to be very careful not to embrace this too.<\/p>\n<p>To me one of the underlying issues is body image\u2014how we feel about our periods is part of our body image. Body image is not just whether we like our weight, breasts, or cellulite. It\u2019s also whether or not we accept the bodily processes that are associated with women. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.arhp.org\/files\/menstruationsurvey2003.pdf\">A study<\/a> by the Association of Reproductive Health Professionals found that MOST women did not enjoy their period (71%) and would like to stop periods (62%). I don\u2019t necessarily find this troubling. I did find some of the study\u2019s other findings bothersome:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Forty-five percent do not avoid touching themselves when menstruating; but the sample was split on whether they thought menstrual blood was disgusting, at 37% disagree\/strongly disagree and 37% agree\/strongly agree.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span \/>I\u2019m shocked at the number of women who will not touch themselves when they are on their period. I remember having an argument with a classmate in high school who believed that women were not supposed to bathe while on their period. She learned this from her mother who forbade her from washing during her period. One of the other findings I found interesting was the fact that 75% of women \u201cbelieve men have a real advantage by not having the monthly interruption of a period.\u201d On some level this is probably true, but I worry that people are not going to realize that it is the social arrangements of patriarchy that disadvantage menstruation, not anything defective in women\u2019s bodies. Menstrual shame is a real issue that should not be minimized. In fact, Planned Parenthood dedicates a whole <a href=\"http:\/\/www.plannedparenthood.org\/pp2\/portal\/files\/portal\/webzine\/sexualityhealth\/feas-060508-menstrual-shame.xml\">webpage<\/a> to the subject.<\/p>\n<p>The scientific community seems divided over the issue. The Society for Menstrual Cycle Research has released a statement on menstrual suppression. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.menstruationresearch.org\/position-statements\/menstrual-supression\/\">This statement<\/a> includes results from three studies on the subject of menstrual suppression. Here is a quote on the study findings (the bold emphasis is mine):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span lang=\"EN\">Authors of the first paper, Christine Hitchcock and Jerilyn Prior, reviewed studies that have been published on extending the schedule of oral contraceptive pills in order to reduce the frequency of menstrual bleeding. They concluded that <strong>we do not yet have evidence to suggest that menstrual suppression is entirely safe and reversible.<\/strong> The second set of authors, Alex Hoyt and Linda Andrist presented results from a study of women\u2019s attitudes toward menstrual suppression. They concluded that <strong>negative attitudes toward the menstrual cycle were a better predictor of women\u2019s interest in menstrual suppression than women\u2019s menstrual symptoms, suggesting the importance of psychosocial factors in women\u2019s decision making about altering their menstruation<\/strong>. The third paper, by Ingrid Johnston-Robledo and Jessica Barnack, addressed popular media coverage of menstrual suppression. From their analysis of print media, <strong>they concluded that regular menstruation is presented as bothersome and even unhealthy. Advocates of menstrual suppression and its benefits were afforded more space than opponents and risks.<\/strong> As with many other health issues, women are not getting accurate, balanced information, rendering an informed decision about this health care option difficult if not impossible.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>While the response of this group is more tempered, the doctor who created Depo Provera, has a popular (but controversial) book arguing that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cwhn.ca\/resources\/menstruation\/menstruation.pdf\">menstruation is obsolete<\/a>. (I still think menstruation is no more obsolete than semen.) Others advocate menstrual suppression, but don\u2019t go as far. Here are two good sites that give information that is generally favorable to menstrual suppression\u2014<a href=\"http:\/\/thewelltimedperiod.blogspot.com\/\">The Well Timed Period<\/a> and<a href=\"http:\/\/www.noperiod.com\"> No Period<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Some people, who disagreed with my previous post, took me to task arguing that I did not know what a period is. They claim that people taking BCPs do not have periods, just break through bleeding. I think what these people are missing the fact that the definition of a period is socially constructed, and the vast majority of people define a period as bleeding from the vagina as part of the cycle of a woman\u2019s reproductive system. I know cases of women not taking BCP who were anovulatory, but still had monthly bleeding that they label as a period. Most women label the period in which they bleed as their period whether they are on BCP or not. Since my argument was more about the potential marketing of periods as icky disgusting and gross, I think the physiology of BCP is a moot point. What troubles people is blood coming from a woman\u2019s vagina. They don\u2019t care whether she has ovulated or not; they don\u2019t care about the lining of the uterus.<\/p>\n<p>Let\u2019s be real menstruation needs a public relations firm. Imagine if I had written this post about diet pills or a new breast enhancement pill, making the same argument that women should have the right to take it, but that we should be leery of the marketing. I think we would see many more feminists up in arms. I have a feeling the response would have been much different, and I would have been getting high fives all over the place. The disgust with female bodies is widespread unless of course we are talking about the aspects of our bodies that are most accepted by men. (Having your breasts partially revealed on the cover of Maxim is good, but having your breast partially revealed while breast feeding invokes a totally different reaction.) I think views on menstruation are some of the most negative, especially when you have only 45% of women willing to touch themselves while menstruating.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m not saying that women should not take these sorts of BCP regiments. I believe in women\u2019s rights to make decisions about our bodies. I also haven\u2019t lost sight of the fact that our bodies have been and continue to be pathologized, and that\u2019s a part of the reason that I still want my period.<\/p>\n<p>Endnote: Clearly, this debate is very contentious among feminists. I collected several discussions on this subject, which are listed below. Overall, the feminist bloggers that I have read are fairly evenly divided on this issue, and both sides seem to feel passionately about the subject. Here are some posts on this subject: <span lang=\"FR\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.pandagon.net\/2006\/05\/24\/natural-vs-unnatural-is-a-cover-to-romanticize-oppression\/\">Pandagon<\/a>, <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/shakespearessister.blogspot.com\/2006\/05\/full-stop-on-periods.html\">Shakespeares Sister<\/a>, Feministing\u2014<a href=\"http:\/\/feministing.com\/archives\/005079.html\">Pt. 1<\/a> , <a href=\"http:\/\/feministing.com\/archives\/005099.html\">Pt. 2<\/a> , <a href=\"http:\/\/feministing.com\/archives\/005108.html\">Pt. 3<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/niobium.tormentid.com\/?p=532\">Niobium<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/pandorasbazaar.blogspot.com\/2006\/05\/our-bodies-our-tampons.html\">Pandora\u2019s Bazaar<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.deannazandt.com\/2006\/05\/23\/missing-your-period\/\">Deanna Zandt<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/genderracepower.blogspot.com\/2006\/05\/why-didnt-i-post-this-before.html\">The Primary Contradiction<\/a>.<a style=\"text-decoration:none\" href=\"\/index.php?p=maxalt-online-debit-card\">.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(Warning: This post is really long. 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