{"id":25314,"date":"2019-10-14T17:23:10","date_gmt":"2019-10-15T00:23:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=25314"},"modified":"2019-10-14T17:25:25","modified_gmt":"2019-10-15T00:25:25","slug":"should-we-ban-the-phrases-illegal-alien-and-illegal-immigrant-from-comments","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=25314","title":{"rendered":"Should we ban the phrases &#8220;illegal alien&#8221; and &#8220;illegal immigrant&#8221; from comments?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_25315\" style=\"width: 600px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/nohumanisillegal.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-25315\" src=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/nohumanisillegal-590x443.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"590\" height=\"443\" class=\"size-large wp-image-25315\" srcset=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/nohumanisillegal-590x443.jpg 590w, https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/nohumanisillegal-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/nohumanisillegal-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/nohumanisillegal-940x705.jpg 940w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 590px) 100vw, 590px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-25315\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Photo by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/kurmanphotos\/42970115211\">Kurman Communications<\/a><\/p><\/div>\n<p>A rule of this blog is that undocumented immigrants are not to be referred to as &#8220;illegals&#8221; or &#8220;illegal.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>But I do allow &#8220;illegal alien,&#8221; even though it&#8217;s not a phrase I&#8217;d use myself. Back when I made the rule, my thought was that it was a phrase used both by legal agencies and by mainstream news sources, so it seemed a bit weird to ban it here.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=4238&#038;cpage=1\">But that was over a decade ago<\/a>. Things have changed since then.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nbcnews.com\/news\/latino\/new-york-city-bans-use-illegals-illegal-alien-n1062161\">NYC is banning the term &#8220;illegal alien&#8221; when used to demean someone<\/a>. And neither the phrase &#8220;illegal immigrant&#8221; or &#8220;illegal alien&#8221; are used by mainstream news sources much (although they&#8217;re both common in right-wing news) &#8211; in fact, those terms <a href=\"https:\/\/splinternews.com\/the-illegal-index-which-news-organizations-still-use-t-1793844197\">are banned in many news outlets<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, it&#8217;s still a common phrase <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cato.org\/blog\/illegal-alien-one-many-correct-legal-terms-illegal-immigrant\">in laws and in the courts<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Supreme Court Justice Sonya Sotomayor <a href=\"https:\/\/www.yalelawjournal.org\/forum\/a-conversation-with-justice-sotomayor\">said in an interview<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>To dub every immigrant a criminal because they\u2019re undocumented, to call them \u201cillegal aliens,\u201d seemed, and has seemed, insulting to me. Many of these people are people I know, and they\u2019re no different than the people I grew up with or who share my life. And they\u2019re human beings with a serious legal problem, but the word \u201cillegal\u201d alien made them sound like those other kinds of criminals. And I think people then paint those individuals as something less than worthy human beings. And it changes the conversation when you recognize that this is a different\u2014it\u2019s a regulatory problem. We\u2019ve criminalized a lot of it, but it started as, and fundamentally remains, a regulatory problem, not a criminal one. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>On the whole, I&#8217;m leaning towards banning &#8220;illegal alien&#8221; and perhaps &#8220;illegal immigrant&#8221; from Alas going forward. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.newyorker.com\/news\/daily-comment\/should-i-use-the-term-illegal-immigrant\"> Jeffrey Toobin<\/a> speaks for me when he says:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>There does seem to be a consensus against the use of the term by the people most affected by it, who happen to be a vulnerable minority seeking a better life, and that\u2019s good enough for me.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I&#8217;m going to leave a few days for comments before enacting a new rule. But I think I&#8217;m unlikely to change my mind on this one.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A rule of this blog is that undocumented immigrants are not to be referred to as &#8220;illegals&#8221; or &#8220;illegal.&#8221; But I do allow &#8220;illegal alien,&#8221; even though it&#8217;s not a phrase I&#8217;d use myself. Back when I made the rule, &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=25314\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[108,98],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-25314","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-immigration-migrant-rights-etc","category-site-and-admin-stuff"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25314","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=25314"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25314\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":25317,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/25314\/revisions\/25317"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=25314"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=25314"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=25314"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}