{"id":27231,"date":"2024-01-08T01:36:40","date_gmt":"2024-01-08T09:36:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=27231"},"modified":"2024-01-08T01:36:47","modified_gmt":"2024-01-08T09:36:47","slug":"so-much-in-common","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=27231","title":{"rendered":"So Much In Common"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image is-resized\"><a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/israel-hamas-netanyahu-supporters-alike.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/israel-hamas-netanyahu-supporters-alike.png?fit=590%2C572&amp;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-27232\" width=\"590\" height=\"572\" srcset=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/israel-hamas-netanyahu-supporters-alike.png 1200w, https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/israel-hamas-netanyahu-supporters-alike-300x291.png 300w, https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/israel-hamas-netanyahu-supporters-alike-768x745.png 768w, https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/israel-hamas-netanyahu-supporters-alike-590x572.png 590w, https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/israel-hamas-netanyahu-supporters-alike-940x912.png 940w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 590px) 100vw, 590px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p>Robert Wright <a href=\"https:\/\/nonzero.substack.com\/p\/the-river-to-the-sea-rorschach-test\">writes:<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>But then I remembered a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=6esA2sk9sgI\">conversation<\/a> I had a few years ago with a psychologist at Boston College named Liane &nbsp;Young. She and some colleagues had done research on how Palestinians &nbsp;and Israelis view their conflict and found that the two groups have &nbsp;something in common: Both believe that people on <em>their <\/em>side of the fight are motivated more by love for one another than by hatred &nbsp;of people on the other side, but that on the other side it\u2019s the other &nbsp;way around: there, people are motivated more by hatred of the enemy than by love of one another.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcpsr.org\/en\/node\/928\">The Palestine\/Israel Pulse<\/a>, an annual survey of Israelis and Palestinians, also found some disturbing commonalities:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>As &nbsp;in previous surveys, levels of trust in the other side are very low: &nbsp;86% of Palestinians and 85% of Israeli Jews believe the other side is &nbsp;not trustworthy.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Each &nbsp;side perceives itself as an exclusive victim (84% of Palestinians and &nbsp;84% of Israeli Jews), while an overwhelming majority of Palestinians (90%) but only a smaller majority of Israeli Jews (63%) think this suffering grants them with a moral right to do anything they deem as &nbsp;necessary for survival. A vast majority among both groups (93%) see &nbsp;themselves as rightful owners of the land between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan river. While a third of Israeli Jews are willing to &nbsp;accept some ownership right of the Palestinians, only 7% of Palestinians &nbsp;are willing to accept such idea about the Jews.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>* * *<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>No issue depresses me more than the Israel-Palestine conflict. October seventh made me feel physically ill, and I couldn&#8217;t write new cartoons for a month after, because nothing else seemed as urgent but writing a cartoon about Israel and Gaza felt impossible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Eventually, I forced myself to write a few cartoons about Israel and Gaza. The best of the scripts &#8211; this one &#8211; is actually a remake of a cartoon I did ages ago (15 years? 20?), <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/posts\/53220370\">Such An Easy Mistake To Make<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What Hamas did on October 7th was incomprehensibly awful. What Israel has done since is also incomprehensively awful. It&#8217;s a hideous situation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I don&#8217;t think peace is impossible. But to even begin diplomatic steps towards real peace would require new governments on both sides of the conflict. That&#8217;s a big ask, and even if it happens, it would be lead not to peace but to yet more big asks which would be required before peace could happen. I like to bring some optimism into these notes accompanying the cartoons, but regarding Israel and Palestine, I find it very hard to feel hope.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p>I hope you all had a wonderful holiday season.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>TRANSCRIPT OF CARTOON<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This cartoon has four panels. Each panel shows the same scene: Two women on a suburban or urban-but-not-the-core sidewalk. It looks like winter; the women are both wearing puffy jackets, and the trees are bare.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The woman on the left has black hair in a ponytail, is wearing a dark purple knit hat, a blue puffy coat, and dark pants. Let&#8217;s call her HAT.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The woman on the right has round glasses, reddish-brown hair, and is wearing a black puffy winter vest over a long-sleeve shirt, and a polka-dot skirt. Let&#8217;s call her SKIRT.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PANEL 1<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hat is holding her phone away from her face, as if she just finished a phone call. She&#8217;s got her back to Skirt, but is looking in skirt&#8217;s direction, and is slightly surprised to be addressed. Skirt is speaking to Hat with a sincere expression.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>SKIRT: Excuse me&#8230; I overheard what you said on the phone, and I completely agree! This whole war comes down to the right to self-defense.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PANEL 2<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hat has turned towards Skirt. Both women have somewhat angry expressions, but the mood (I hope) isn&#8217;t yelling at each other, but a mutual griping session. Hat has lifted one hand in an &#8220;explaining my point&#8221; gesture, while Skirt has her arms akimbo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>HAT: Exactly! No other nation is expected to endure attack after attack without fighting back!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>SKIRT: It&#8217;s unfortunate that some civilians die. But we&#8217;re not the ones who started it!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PANEL 3<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>They get more into their griping; hat is holding her hands in fists and leaning forward, and Skirt is waving her arms and leaning forward.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>HAT: Right! They could end this anytime, but they don&#8217;t want to!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>SKIRT: We&#8217;ve got no choice! We&#8217;re defending our right to exist!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>PANEL 4<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hat turns a bit away as the conversation ends. Both of them look very pleased. The dialog this panel is all in thought balloons.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>HAT (thought): So nice to meet another Israel supporter!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>SKIRT (thought): So nice to meet another Hamas supporter!<br \/><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>CHICKEN FAT WATCH<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In panel three, there&#8217;s a newspaper littering the ground. If you look super closely, the paper has the headline CARTOONIST LOSES PATRONS, and in smaller print, &#8220;Whoops! Says Drawing Man.&#8221; The newspaper&#8217;s photo shows a stickfigure man shrugging.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/posts\/95410893\">So Much In Common | Patreon<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Robert Wright writes: But then I remembered a conversation I had a few years ago with a psychologist at Boston College named Liane &nbsp;Young. She and some colleagues had done research on how Palestinians &nbsp;and Israelis view their conflict and &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=27231\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[17,40,61],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-27231","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-cartooning-comics","category-international-issues","category-palestine-israel"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27231","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=27231"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27231\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":27233,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27231\/revisions\/27233"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=27231"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=27231"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=27231"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}