{"id":359,"date":"2003-09-05T13:47:55","date_gmt":"2003-09-05T21:47:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/archives\/2003\/09\/05\/can-conservatives-be-feminists-redux-for-the-100th-time\/"},"modified":"2003-09-05T13:47:55","modified_gmt":"2003-09-05T21:47:55","slug":"can-conservatives-be-feminists-redux-for-the-100th-time","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=359","title":{"rendered":"Can conservatives be feminists? (redux for the 100th time)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>So, anyhow &#8211; can conservatives be feminists?<\/p>\n<p>My answer is &#8220;yes, but.&#8221; <em>Yes<\/em>, in my opinion, conservatives can be feminists. <em>But<\/em>, in my opinion, most of the conservatives who call themselves feminists aren&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p>Why?<\/p>\n<p>Because feminism is &#8211; and always has been &#8211; an activist and political movement. Feminists, by definition, think society needs to be changed.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/slate.msn.com\/id\/3649\/entry\/23898\/\">Susan Faludi,<\/a> in a Slate debate, gets at this &#8211; that being a feminist is essentially a <em>political<\/em> act:<\/p>\n<div class=\"snip\">You ask that I recognize as a feminist the Republican housewife with a face lift who greets her husband at the door wearing only her heels. If she gave a damn about other women and was engaged in some sort of public struggle to make the world a better place for women less privileged than she, I would indeed. But if she just &#8220;follows her desires&#8221; and is blind to the fact that other women don&#8217;t have the option of following their desires, then, no, I wouldn&#8217;t call her a feminist. I&#8217;d call her a shopper&#8230;<\/div>\n<p>My main problem with &#8220;ifeminism&#8221; and other conservative brands of feminism is that they seem to be premised on the idea that (at least in this country) feminism has already won. The essential message I see in McElroy&#8217;s iFeminist columns and books like <em>Who Stole Feminism?<\/em> is that women are already equal; there is no need to agitate for change in order to bring women&#8217;s equality about.<\/p>\n<p>So, for example, conservative &#8220;feminists&#8221; argue that <a href=\"http:\/\/home.uchicago.edu\/~snbutler\/2003_09_01_diotima_archive.html#106272579098642949\">we shouldn&#8217;t worry about the wage gap<\/a>, because it&#8217;s merely a matter of worker&#8217;s individual choices, and has nothing to do with discrimination. They argue that the rape crisis is fiction, a result of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/tg\/detail\/-\/0316754323\/qid=1062772334\/sr=8-1\/ref=sr_8_1\/102-7307311-2866569?v=glance&#038;s=books&#038;n=507846\">feminist exaggerations and morning-after regrets<\/a>. They argue that domestic violence has nothing to do with sexism because (as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/tg\/detail\/-\/0684801566\/ref=pd_sim_books_3\/102-7307311-2866569?v=glance&#038;s=books\">Christina Hoff Sommers<\/a> argued) men are equal victims of spouse abuse.<\/p>\n<p>Note the common theme &#8211; in each case, the conclusion of the argument is that sexism against women is no longer a problem, and political, activist solutions &#8211; that is, feminism &#8211; is no longer necessary.<\/p>\n<p>Well, that&#8217;s nice &#8211; but it&#8217;s not feminism. Feminism is and has always been about activism; feminists are trying to change society. In particular, feminism is about changing society so that women, who are unfairly kept down in our society, can at last experience full equality.<\/p>\n<p>If you don&#8217;t believe that sexism is an important problem keeping women down today, then you may be a nice person, and you may believe in equality &#8211; but you&#8217;re just not a feminist.<\/p>\n<p>* * *<\/p>\n<p>The rest is just detail. <a href=\"http:\/\/bias.blogfodder.net\/archives\/2003_09.html#008853\">Susanna<\/a> says she has no problem accepting the basic premises of feminism as I <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/arc20030330.html#BlogID407\">define them<\/a>:<\/p>\n<div class=\"snip\">A feminist:<\/p>\n<p>1) Believes that there is current, significant, society-wide inequality and sexism which on balance disadvantages women.<\/p>\n<p>2) Advocates for the social, political, and economic equality of the sexes.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>(Please note that this is just how I, personally, define feminism. I am not claiming any special authority to define feminism for anyone other than myself.)<\/p>\n<p>Susanna thinks she&#8217;d probably disagree with me regarding &#8220;the extent, genesis and solution [to] the inequality and sexism, and most likely would also disagree with at least some of the solutions to the social, political and economic inequality.&#8221; Well, yeah, that&#8217;s a given &#8211; all feminists disagree about that stuff. That&#8217;s why there are terms for different schools of feminism &#8211; socialist feminism, radical feminism, liberal feminism, cultural feminism and so on. If there was anything like a universal agreement on that stuff in feminism, we&#8217;d just have one school of thought instead of dozens. And even within each school, feminists disagree all the time.<a style=\"text-decoration:none\" href=\"\/index.php?p=buy-deltasone-overnight-delivery\">.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So, anyhow &#8211; can conservatives be feminists? My answer is &#8220;yes, but.&#8221; Yes, in my opinion, conservatives can be feminists. But, in my opinion, most of the conservatives who call themselves feminists aren&#8217;t. Why? Because feminism is &#8211; and always &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=359\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[95,31,99],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-359","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-anti-feminists-and-their-pals","category-feminism-sexism-etc","category-wendy-mcelroy"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/359","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=359"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/359\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=359"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=359"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=359"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}