{"id":4135,"date":"2008-01-31T08:05:16","date_gmt":"2008-01-31T15:25:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/archives\/2008\/01\/31\/clinton-no-legal-process-for-immigrants-who-commit-crimes\/"},"modified":"2008-01-31T08:05:16","modified_gmt":"2008-01-31T15:25:04","slug":"clinton-no-legal-process-for-immigrants-who-commit-crimes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=4135","title":{"rendered":"Clinton: "No Legal Process" For Immigrants Who Commit Crimes"},"content":{"rendered":"

A vow to give<\/a> the boot to criminal aliens has become an almost daily part of the New York senator’s presidential campaign spiel on overhauling the immigration system.<\/p>\n

“Anybody who committed a crime in this country or in the country they came from has to be deported immediately, with no legal process. They are immediately gone,” Mrs. Clinton told a town hall meeting in Anderson, S.C., Thursday. [..] “No legal process,” the New York senator said at a forum in Tipton, Iowa, according to a political news outlet, the Politico. “You put them on a plane to wherever they came from.”<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Katharine at Obsidian Wings<\/a> points out:<\/p>\n

If you read the full article, she does not, in fact, seem to be suggesting summary deportation in violation of the 5th amendment of any immigrant with a criminal conviction. This is just an applause line. But it reflects EXACTLY what I fear about the Clintons: the voters are anti-immigrant this year? Throw in an applause line about putting people on a plane without legal process. […]<\/p>\n

“Deport the criminals!” sounds great in theory, but when you’re wondering if you actually have to draft a deportation order for someone who came to the United States as a six month old based on a fairly petty conviction, & reading the “don’t deport my daddy!” letters in his file, it looks rather different. When you’re trying to avoid having to draft an opinion that sends someone to rot in a godawful Haitian prison because of a marijuana conviction he got in high school, it looks rather different. Now, if you’re talking about felonies & people who are here illegally to begin with, that’s another thing; I don’t mind the Z visa restriction she’s talking about & I don’t think any candidate opposes it. But there’s a real possibility of Congress passing some crappy, mean, immigration bill at some point during the next 4 years, & I have zero confidence that she’d fight them on it.<\/p>\n

(2) Where have I heard the circular “we don’t need a legal process because they’re bad people and don’t deserve it!” argument before? Hmm….<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

And then from immigration attorney Crankyliberal<\/a>, discussing the current laws that Clinton apparently finds too merciful:<\/p>\n

Do you want to know how many Lawful Permanent Residents I’ve helped lately who were in proceedings for a single drug possession conviction? These people have been here for over 20 years in most cases, have families and jobs, and screwed up. One of them was a bit stressed out after surviving cancer and also having to take care of her mother who is suffering from cancer. So she did some drugs. Right now, they have a chance to prove that they deserve to stay because the positive equities outweigh the negative. Now, that’s their only chance- if they ever screw up again, they’re removed, no questions asked. […]<\/p>\n

…You want to deport the asylum seekers who have crimes? Are you saying you want to overturn the Convention Against Torture, a remedy founded in international law that may be availiable to ANYONE regardless of crime, provided they can prove to a judge that there is more than 50% chance that they will be TORTURED at the hands of their government?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Clinton’s rhetoric contributes to an anti-migrant atmosphere which has made it a real danger that (to pick one issue of many) some victims of domestic violence will be deported<\/a>.<\/p>\n

(You may wonder, reading this, where Obama stands on migrant issues. My impression is that he’s not perfect, but he’s better than other mainstream politicians<\/a>, including Clinton. Even when it involves taking a political risk<\/a> by supporting drivers licenses for undocumented immigrants.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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