{"id":4397,"date":"2008-05-07T00:14:19","date_gmt":"2008-05-07T07:34:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/archives\/2008\/05\/07\/heron61s-geeky-musings-on-terminator-the-sarah-conner-chronicles\/"},"modified":"2008-05-07T00:14:19","modified_gmt":"2008-05-07T07:34:07","slug":"heron61s-geeky-musings-on-terminator-the-sarah-conner-chronicles","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=4397","title":{"rendered":"Heron61's Geeky Musings on Terminator: The Sarah Conner Chronicles"},"content":{"rendered":"

The Terminator TV show (all nine episodes that exist so far) is an extremely pleasant surprise — who would have expected it to be good<\/em>? Heron61<\/a> deduces some implications of time travel in the Terminator show and movies (some spoilers):<\/p>\n

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\nIn any case, in addition to being one of the most definitely feminist shows on TV, I also like T:SCC because it\u2019s fundamentally about the sort of time travel where nothing is fixed and the past and future can be changed. I was thinking about the (at this point exceptionally complex) timestream of the show. Looking at the first movie, it\u2019s clear that we were watching at least the 2nd actual timeline. In the original timeline (before any time travel occurred) it\u2019s obvious that John Conner was never born, because Kyle Reese never went back in time. Instead, presumably the war happened sometime later than 1999 (since the 1999 war happened earlier because of access to cyborg technology) and I\u2019m betting that humanity did very badly indeed. So, somehow one of the few survivors, Kyle Reese, gets access to the time machine and goes back into the 1980s. There, he presumably tries to warn people, fails utterly, and instead hooks up with Sarah Conner, they have a kid, and Kyle Reese and Sarah Conner raise this child with the knowledge of the coming war \u2013 putting him in the perfect position to be a rebel leader who helps the survivors do a whole lot better than they did in the timeline the first Kyle Reese is from.<\/p>\n

The first movie started with this timeline, where John Conner knew he had to send Kyle Reese back, both to protect Conner\u2019s mother from the terminator and to become his father. So, we already have a third timeline, because this time Sarah Conner is attacked by a terminator robot and Kyle Reese is killed by it. Then, in the end of the 2nd movie, Sarah Conner eliminates this timeline by destroying the remains of this robot, creating timeline number four, where the war happens in 2011. Then, the show starts with Cameron taking Sarah and John Conner from the 1990s to 2007, creating timeline five, where John Conner is around a decade younger than he previously was. Sarah Conner destroying the first model of “the Turk” and Derek Reese killing Andy Goode have likely created another timeline that is again at least slightly different. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Not to mention the rather suckalicious third Terminator movie, which is presumably a timeline that was somehow prevented and so now never takes place. I love time travel narratives. :-)<\/p>\n

There’s much more, including some possibly unfair comments about why it’s for the best that this isn’t a Whedon show, in Heron61’s post.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

The Terminator TV show (all nine episodes that exist so far) is an extremely pleasant surprise — who would have expected it to be good? Heron61 deduces some implications of time travel in the Terminator show and movies (some spoilers):<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[62],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4397","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-popular-and-unpopular-culture"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4397","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4397"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4397\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4397"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4397"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4397"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}