{"id":4413,"date":"2008-05-10T14:00:07","date_gmt":"2008-05-10T21:19:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/archives\/2008\/05\/10\/a-quick-annoyed-note-to-my-fellow-obama-supporters-regarding-sexist-jokes-and-other-forms-of-clinton-derision\/"},"modified":"2008-05-10T14:00:07","modified_gmt":"2008-05-10T21:19:55","slug":"a-quick-annoyed-note-to-my-fellow-obama-supporters-regarding-sexist-jokes-and-other-forms-of-clinton-derision","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=4413","title":{"rendered":"A quick, annoyed note to my fellow Obama supporters, regarding sexist jokes and Clinton-derision"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/wilwheaton.typepad.com\/wwdnbackup\/2008\/05\/hillary-clinton.html\">Wil Wheaton<\/a> has a post on his blog entitled &#8220;Hillary Clinton: the psycho ex-girlfriend of the democratic party,&#8221; and there&#8217;s really nothing more you need than the title to understand what the post is about.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve seen altogether too much of this from Obama supporters; not just sexism, but also bitter derision and gloating. ((And yes, I&#8217;ve seen <em>plenty <\/em>of bitter derision from Clinton&#8217;s supporters for us &#8220;Obamabots,&#8221; as they charmingly call us, but that&#8217;s not the subject of this post.))<\/p>\n<p>My message to Obama supporters such as Wheaton: Stop it. If you&#8217;re so sure Obama has won, then it&#8217;s time to start acting like smart winners. We can&#8217;t win in November without the nearly 50% of Democrats who prefer Clinton to Obama, and every unnecessary word you write that dismisses, alienates or otherwise <em>pisses off <\/em>Clinton&#8217;s supporters is a word that <em>helps John McCain win<\/em> in November.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not saying to keep silent regarding substantive disagreements, but if all you&#8217;ve got is sexist jokes and sneering mockery, then do Barack Obama a favor and <em>shut the hell up<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Wheaton ends his post with this:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>And allow me to just head something off right now that&#8217;s already come up on Twitter: I&#8217;m not sexist. This isn&#8217;t sexist. That&#8217;s a stupid straw man, and if you try to make that claim, I will point and laugh at you.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This so annoyed me I was going to leave a comment &#8212; but then I read the comments, and <a href=\"http:\/\/wilwheaton.typepad.com\/wwdnbackup\/2008\/05\/hillary-clinton.html#comment-113742482\">this response <\/a>from <a href=\"http:\/\/backpackingdad.blogspot.com\/\">Backpacking Dad<\/a> had already said it perfectly:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Is it not sexist because it&#8217;s mysogynistic instead?<\/p>\n<p>Is it not sexist because it&#8217;s funny?<\/p>\n<p>Is it not sexist because it&#8217;s a metaphor that speaks to you?<\/p>\n<p>So. Those were all questions. Here is a statement:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Dude. You don&#8217;t get to decide what&#8217;s sexist.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s a reason to think that it MIGHT be sexist. You can g&#8217;an and point and laugh, but I&#8217;ll take this seriously for a second just to see where it goes:<\/p>\n<p>The metaphor evokes a trope in sexual politics, that of the irrational girl who cannot accept that a relationship is over. Labeling, categorizing, pigeon-holing someone in this way &#8220;he&#8217;s a geek, she&#8217;s a slut, he&#8217;s a pig, she&#8217;s cow&#8221; is at once appealing to a fragment of truth, and also making the target controllable.<\/p>\n<p>If they are controllable, they are marginalizable. And they can be dismissed. The problem with controlling and dismissing Hillary using a trope from sexual politics is that it moves her from the realm of discourse and debate into the realm of sex (as in &#8220;getting it on&#8221;). And labeling her as batshit crazy in an ex-girlfriend sense means that she is not only sexualized, but her sexuality can be controlled.<\/p>\n<p>And that&#8217;s the heart and soul of sexism.<\/p>\n<p>But I can understand if you didn&#8217;t really want to engage anyone on this. It is a funny piece, and sometimes maybe we want to hang on to the things we like even though someone else might think they&#8217;re inappropriate.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>UPDATE<\/strong>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.knoxnews.com\/knx\/silence\/archives\/2008\/05\/did_a_us_congre.shtml\">According to<\/a> U.S. Rep. Steve Cohen, D-Memphis, she may be starting to more closely resemble another famous movie character: The psycho lady played by Glenn Close in &#8220;Fatal Attraction.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>When asked about whether Clinton should drop out of the race on Fox 13&#8217;s &#8220;Good Morning Memphis&#8221; program today, Cohen said: &#8220;Glenn Close should have stayed in that tub.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Rep. Cohen, would you please <strong>GET THE FUCK OFF MY SIDE!!!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>(Curtsy: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.talkleft.com\/story\/2008\/5\/9\/214729\/7961\">Talk Left<\/a>.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Wil Wheaton has a post on his blog entitled &#8220;Hillary Clinton: the psycho ex-girlfriend of the democratic party,&#8221; and there&#8217;s really nothing more you need than the title to understand what the post is about. I&#8217;ve seen altogether too much &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=4413\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[27,31],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4413","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-elections-and-politics","category-feminism-sexism-etc"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4413","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4413"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4413\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4413"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4413"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4413"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}