{"id":488,"date":"2003-12-12T07:49:24","date_gmt":"2003-12-12T15:49:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/archives\/2003\/12\/12\/not-liberal-at-all\/"},"modified":"2003-12-12T07:49:24","modified_gmt":"2003-12-12T15:49:24","slug":"not-liberal-at-all","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=488","title":{"rendered":"Not liberal at all"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>From Matthew Yglesias:<\/p>\n<div class=\"snip\">The end of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalreview.com\/goldberg\/goldberg200312100920.asp\">latest G-file<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;A liberal,&#8221; Irving Kristol once observed, &#8220;is one who says that it&#8217;s all right for an 18-year-old girl to perform in a pornographic movie as long as she gets paid the minimum wage.&#8221; I guess Kristol&#8217;s dictum needs to be updated. Today, a liberal is one who says it&#8217;s all right for an 18-year-old girl to perform in a pornographic movie as long as the cast &#8220;looks like America.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That Kristol quote is actually pretty smart, though it obviously fails to take into consideration that (in my opinion, rather illiberal) anti-porn faction of feminism. A libertarian is someone who says that it&#8217;s all right for an 18-year-old girl to perform in a pornographic at whatever wage, and a conservative says it&#8217;s all wrong.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>I&#8217;m not sure why the quote should take into account the anti-porn faction of feminism. That faction has been more-or-less led by Catherine MacKinnon and Andrea Dworkin, both of whom would, I think, passionately deny being liberal. In her writings, MacKinnon is as bitterly anti-liberal as any conservative.<\/p>\n<p>MacKinnon and Dworkin&#8217;s leadership was unfortunate, in my view. As brilliant as both women are, they nonetheless led radical feminism into a futile fight for anti-porn legislation that split feminism. The result was to sabatoge what had been, up to that point, an effective radical feminist movement with many great accomplishments. (Susan Brownmiller makes a similar argument in her memoir <i>In Our Time<\/i>). I don&#8217;t think radical feminism has yet recovered from the wrong turn it took in the 80s.<a style=\"text-decoration:none\" href=\"\/index.php?p=price-of-maxalt-with-insurance\">.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>From Matthew Yglesias: The end of the latest G-file: &#8220;A liberal,&#8221; Irving Kristol once observed, &#8220;is one who says that it&#8217;s all right for an 18-year-old girl to perform in a pornographic movie as long as she gets paid the &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=488\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[31,65],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-488","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-feminism-sexism-etc","category-sex-work-porn"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/488","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=488"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/488\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=488"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=488"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=488"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}