{"id":6924,"date":"2009-03-03T11:54:14","date_gmt":"2009-03-03T19:14:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=6924"},"modified":"2009-03-03T11:54:14","modified_gmt":"2009-03-03T19:14:02","slug":"california-high-court-hears-arguments-on-prop-8-this-thursday","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=6924","title":{"rendered":"California High Court Hears Arguments On Prop 8 This Thursday"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.indegayforum.org\/blog\/show\/31734.html\">David Link<\/a> has a good point:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The Supreme Court\u2019s decision (when it comes &#8212; under court rules the justices have 90 days after oral argument to issue an opinion) will not be a ruling in favor of or against either side.<\/p>\n<p>The court will decide some very important constitutional issues. [&#8230;] But the answers to these questions will not amount to a judgment by the court on the moral, legal or social appropriateness of same-sex marriage, or on the wisdom of the majority who passed Prop. 8.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.latimes.com\/news\/printedition\/asection\/la-oe-goldberg1-2009mar01,0,3264334,full.story\">backgrounder<\/a>&#8221; at the LA Times is a good guide to the main issues the Court <em>will <\/em>be deciding.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Opponents of Prop. 8 argue that although some changes to the Constitution can be made by a simple majority of Californians, others cannot.<\/p>\n<p>They note that there is a difference between an &#8220;amendment&#8221; of the Constitution, which can be approved by a majority of voters, and a more substantive &#8220;revision&#8221; of the Constitution, which requires a two-thirds vote of the Legislature before it can get on the ballot.<\/p>\n<p>Proposition 8 was passed as an amendment. But, opponents say, it should&#8217;ve been passed as a revision. This may sound like a dry technical issue, one of process rather than substance. But don&#8217;t be fooled: It&#8217;s very much about substance.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Why should it have been a revision? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Because it&#8217;s so sweeping. Opponents argue that the freedom of gay people to marry whom they want is a fundamental right &#8212; protected under the California Constitution&#8217;s guarantees of liberty, privacy and equal protection. These rights can&#8217;t be denied to a vulnerable minority just because 50.1% of California voters get it into their heads to do so. If anything should require the tougher standards of a &#8220;revision,&#8221; it&#8217;s this.<\/p>\n<p>Gays are considered a &#8220;suspect class&#8221; (meaning that state courts already have identified them as a group that has been historically discriminated against), and singling out a suspect class to deprive it of a fundamental right is especially questionable. It requires, at the very least, the kind of extra &#8220;formality, discussion and deliberation&#8221; that the Supreme Court has said in past decisions is available through the revision process.<\/p>\n<p>We live, after all, in a constitutional democracy, not a pure democracy. That means, as every schoolchild is taught, that there are checks and balances on the majority&#8217;s power over the rights of minorities.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How do the pro-Prop. 8 forces respond? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>They say it&#8217;s all a lot of hooey: Prop. 8 isn&#8217;t a revision. It only adds 14 words to the document, for goodness&#8217; sake! As a brief from the American Center for Law &amp; Justice noted, the amendment involves no redistribution of authority among the branches of state government, no &#8220;wholesale diversion from the stated original purpose of the Constitution.&#8221; Plenty of other amendments have required change at least as sweeping as Prop. 8, they say, and the court has rarely demurred.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I think the anti-Prop 8 forces have the stronger argument, but I could easily imagine the Court deciding either way.<\/p>\n<p>Whatever the decision is, it most likely can&#8217;t be appealed to the US Supreme Court, since all the issues here come down to what the California constitution says. (I&#8217;m sure the lawyers who comment here will let me know in comments if I&#8217;m mistaken about that.) And whatever the decision is, the fight for equal rights will keep on going afterward.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>David Link has a good point: The Supreme Court\u2019s decision (when it comes &#8212; under court rules the justices have 90 days after oral argument to issue an opinion) will not be a ruling in favor of or against either &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=6924\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[112],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6924","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-same-sex-marriage"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6924","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=6924"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6924\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=6924"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=6924"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=6924"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}