{"id":99,"date":"2003-05-08T15:45:57","date_gmt":"2003-05-08T23:45:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/archives\/2003\/05\/08\/democrats-and-israel-never-criticize-never-dissent\/"},"modified":"2003-05-08T15:45:57","modified_gmt":"2003-05-08T23:45:57","slug":"democrats-and-israel-never-criticize-never-dissent","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=99","title":{"rendered":"Democrats and Israel: never criticize, never dissent"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Mike Silverman, in a post called <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mikesilverman.com\/2003_05_04_log_archive.html#200257200\">&#8220;Greens for Bush,&#8221;<\/a> writes:<\/p>\n<p><center><\/p>\n<div class=\"snip\">The Green Party, who in 2000 helped elect George Bush, is hard at working making sure he will be re-elected in 2004. Check out this web site <a href=\"http:\/\/www.joseph2004.org\/\">savaging one of the only Democrats<\/a> in the race who actually has a chance at beating Bush (for the record, Kerry and Dean are the other two to whom I would give decent odds).<\/p>\n<p>Hey, the site&#8217;s creators even threw in some &#8220;death to Israel&#8221; links for good measure!<\/p>\n<p>And of course, a link to the Green Party. But I repeat myself.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><\/center><\/p>\n<p>The tedious Green-bashing and basic dishonesty of this post&#8217;s premise aside (there&#8217;s no reason to believe that the site Mike links to was created by the Green Party), what strikes me about this post is how much it opposes the very <em>idea<\/em> of dissent and criticism. The site Mike is objecting to, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.joseph2004.org\/\">Joseph Lieberman for President 2004<\/a>, is a satirical site criticizing Lieberman for being too right-wing (&#8220;Joseph Lieberman. A new kind of Democrat. The Republican kind.&#8221;). Sub-pages criticize Lieberman on military spending, on capital punishment, and other policy issues.<\/p>\n<p>But apparently &#8211; at least, according to Mike &#8211; it&#8217;s now a terrible thing to criticize Lieberman&#8217;s policies at all. Criticizing Lieberman is working hard &#8220;making sure Bush will be re-elected in 2004.&#8221;  To criticize Lieberman at all is to favor Bush.<\/p>\n<p>Those &#8220;death to Israel&#8221; links Mike mentions? Neither one of them &#8211; not the excellent <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishwomenwatching.com\/\">Jewish Women Watching<\/a> site, nor the horribly designed <a href=\"http:\/\/www.divest-from-israel-campaign.org\/\">Divest From Israel Campaign<\/a> site &#8211; can be even remotely described as a &#8220;death to Israel&#8221; site. To criticize Israel at all is to favor its destruction, apparently.<\/p>\n<p>Needless to say, I disagree with Mike&#8217;s dislike of dissent. Criticism is valuable. To attempt to shut down debate and criticism of Democrats with shrill screams of &#8220;you&#8217;re helping re-elect Bush!&#8221; is to undermine the very idea of the primary system; if Democrats running for the nomination can&#8217;t be criticized, then what&#8217;s the point of <em>having<\/em> primaries?<\/p>\n<p>Similarly, the hysterical accusations that Israel&#8217;s critics favor &#8220;death to Israel&#8221; make legitimate, responsible debate impossible. Mike should be locked up in a small room with those occasional left-wing nuts who yell about &#8220;Zionazis&#8221;; the two extremes deserve each other.<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, although there are many honorable exceptions, I think Mike&#8217;s contempt for dissent is pretty common in the Democratic party nowadays &#8211; and even more among Israel&#8217;s partisans.<\/p>\n<p>As <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishwomenwatching.com\/\">JWW<\/a> says, &#8220;dissent is not a sin.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>(Postscript &#8211; If, like me, you&#8217;re a Jew who&#8217;s grown tired of &#8220;more-Jewish-than-thou&#8221; attitudes among some Israel partisans, be sure to check out Jewish Women&#8217;s Watching mean and sharp satire, &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.jewishwomenwatching.com\/jewishspeak.pdf\">JewishSpeak<\/a>.&#8221; (Warning: pdf file).)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update:<\/strong> Mike <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mikesilverman.com\/2003_05_04_log_archive.html#200265023\">responds to me here.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><i><b>Note<\/b><\/i>: Due to this post being published as Alas was switching commenting software, the original comments to this post have been &#8220;stranded.&#8221; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jennworks.com\/alas\/comments.php?540\">They can still be read here<\/a>. However, please leave any <i>new <\/i>comments in the new comment system (link below).<\/p>\n<p><a style=\"text-decoration:none\" href=\"\/index.php?p=viagra-online-bestellen-tipps\">.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mike Silverman, in a post called &#8220;Greens for Bush,&#8221; writes: The Green Party, who in 2000 helped elect George Bush, is hard at working making sure he will be re-elected in 2004. 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