{"id":992,"date":"2004-07-22T03:19:30","date_gmt":"2004-07-22T11:19:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.amptoons.com\/blog\/archives\/2004\/07\/22\/the-argument-that-changed-me-from-pro-life-to-pro-choice\/"},"modified":"2004-07-22T03:19:30","modified_gmt":"2004-07-22T11:19:30","slug":"the-argument-that-changed-me-from-pro-life-to-pro-choice","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/amptoons.com\/blog\/?p=992","title":{"rendered":"The argument that changed me from pro-life to pro-choice"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In a discussion on this blog a couple of weeks ago, I mentioned that I used to be pro-life. Someone (Joe?) asked at that time:<\/p>\n<div class=snip>Amp &#8212; you haven&#8217;t said what changed your mind. Facts? Arguments? Hanging out with a new set of friends? Hearing people&#8217;s stories? Pictures? Any chance of an answer there?<\/div>\n<p>Okay-dokey. Here&#8217;s the argument that changed my mind on abortion. (This isn&#8217;t the approach I&#8217;d necessarily take nowadays, however.)<\/p>\n<p>In my youth &#8211; up to age 16 or so &#8211; I was abortion-agnostic. I didn&#8217;t really have an opinion one way or the other.<\/p>\n<p>In late high school and early college, I was mildly pro-life. My argument was that it wasn&#8217;t possible for us to know for certain when &#8220;personhood&#8221; begins. Given that we are stuck with uncertainty, I thought it was logical and humane to err on the side of preserving life. Therefore, I argued, abortion should be illegal except when needed to preserve the mother&#8217;s life.<\/p>\n<p>What changed my mind was reading an essay by some philosopher (alas, I no longer know the name of the author or the essay).<\/p>\n<p>The author of the essay argued that, to judge abortion, we need to balance harm done to a woman forced to give birth, against harm suffered by an aborted fetus. However, in order to be harmed by the loss of its future, a fetus would need to have <i>valued <\/i>its potential future at some point in its existence. To value its potential future, it must have a history of<\/p>\n<p>a) Awareness of itself as a being which exists across time, into the future.<\/p>\n<p>b) Anticipating and preferring its own future existence.<\/p>\n<p>If a fetus is not capable of both those things, then it is not harmed in any meaningful way by being aborted. All that it loses is a future it has never valued.<\/p>\n<p>So that was the argument that switched me from being pro-life to pro-choice.<\/p>\n<p>* * *<\/p>\n<p>Now, I can anticipate three objections to this argument, none of which are very persuasive.<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\n<b>1) &#8220;What about the mentally disabled&#8221;?<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Mentally disabled people, contrary to what is implied by this question, do have a sense of self extending into the future, and do anticipate their future.<\/p>\n<p><b>2) &#8220;What about people in comas or asleep?&#8221;<\/b><\/p>\n<p>First of all, it&#8217;s inaccurate to assume that people in comas have no brain activity; being in a coma is not the same thing as being brain-dead. They merely have no way of expressing brain activity, which is not the same thing.<\/p>\n<p>More importantly, a fetus has <i>never<\/i> experienced a sense of self across time, or anticipated a future. A person in a coma has done both these things. Therefore, the person in a coma would be harmed by being killed in a way a fetus is not.<\/p>\n<p>Consider, for instance, person &#8220;A,&#8221; who just <i>loooooves <\/i>chocolate pudding. A walks into a room where there is set out a dish of chocolate pudding for him to eat. A says &#8220;Oh boy! Chocolate pudding! I can&#8217;t wait to eat it!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Just then, Stephen Sondheim walks into the room. Naturally, A is overwhelmed by the presence of the worlds greatest songwriter, and all thoughts of chocolate pudding escape A&#8217;s mind.. During this period, I enter the room and eat A&#8217;s chocolate pudding.<\/p>\n<p>Have I done A harm? I think I have, because he was anticipating eating his chocolate pudding, and (once Mr. Sondheim wanders away) A will be hurt and disappointed to discover his puddingless state.<\/p>\n<p>Now, contrast this with person B. Person B doesn&#8217;t like chocolate pudding &#8211; he hates the stuff, and always will. Furthermore, B didn&#8217;t even know that chocolate pudding was available.<\/p>\n<p>Now suppose I again eat the chocolate pudding. Has B been just as harmed by this as A was? No. A and B are not in parallel situations; A is being deprived of something A values, whereas B isn&#8217;t being deprived of anything B values.<\/p>\n<p><b>3) &#8220;Aren&#8217;t you providing a justification for infanticide?&#8221;<\/b><\/p>\n<p>The third likely objection is that this logic may justify infanticide. This is a &#8220;woman? What woman?&#8221; argument, and considering how the woman is affected will clear it up.<\/p>\n<p>Before birth, there is a conflict of rights between the fetus and the mother. The rights of the fetus to its future must be balanced against its mother&#8217;s right to control her own body. A fetus has only a weak interest in its future, since it doesn&#8217;t know or care if it has a future or not. Put against a woman&#8217;s strong interest in owning her own body, the interest of the fetus in continuing its life is easily overwhelmed, justifying an abortion.<\/p>\n<p>However, the same thing is not true once an infant has been born. Since there is no longer a conflict between the infant&#8217;s right to life and the mother&#8217;s right to control her own body, infanticide cannot be justified by appealing to the mother&#8217;s interests in bodily autonomy. Therefore, once it&#8217;s born, the infant&#8217;s right to life takes precedence.<a style=\"text-decoration:none\" href=\"\/index.php?p=cialis-oral-jelly-online-kaufen-legal\">.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In a discussion on this blog a couple of weeks ago, I mentioned that I used to be pro-life. Someone (Joe?) asked at that time: Amp &#8212; you haven&#8217;t said what changed your mind. Facts? Arguments? 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