Meme: Influential Comics

Jenn at Reappropriate writes:

I tag anyone who reads this blog and has seen even a single episode of Justice League: Unlimited. Ha! That’d better be five people.

Okay, that was over a year ago, but this is the closest I’ve ever come to being “tagged,” so I figure I’d better go for it.

1. One comic book that changed your life.

Cover to “The Amazing Spiderman” #230Amazing Spiderman #229 and #230, “Nothing Can Stop the Juggernaut,” written by Roger Stern, pencils by John Romita Jr., back in 1982.

After not being into comics for years, this comic turned me into a comics addict. The story — in which Spiderman’s pluckiness, determination and refusal to quit allows him to beat someone much larger and stronger — was sure to appeal to a wimpy, bullied kid like me.

Roger Stern is no Alan Moore, but as I recall the story was tightly plotted and pretty smart, for consisting of very little but a two-issue fight scene. Plus, one running gag — a psychic associate of Spiderman’s calling him at whatever phone he happened to be near — gave me uncontrollable giggle fits. (For instance, after Juggernaut collapses an office building on Spiderman, a phone rings in the wreckage, and a shellshocked office worker picks it up and says “uh — Mr. Spiderman, it’s for you.”)

Plus John Romita Jr’s art, while not as stylized as his later work, already displayed unusually fluid, graceful figure movement for drawing Spiderman, and a good sense of mass and size when drawing the huge villain. I’m not saying that you should put down Fun Home and read this instead, but if you happen to be a 14 year old superhero fan, this was a pretty good choice of comics to read.

2. One comic book you have read more than once.

Art from “Ganges” #1, by Kevin Huizenga.There are thousands. But among the most recent is Ganges #1, by Kevin Huizenga, whose understated, calm cartooning thrills me like almost nothing else in comics today. From the above-linked review:

Ganges #1 asks the question, “Is it possible to intelligently examine domesticity in a comic book?” The five all new pieces provide the answer, and the answer is, “Yes.” All five focus on the quotidian reality of Kevin Huizenga’s graphic alter ego, Glenn Ganges… and his wife, Wendy. In each of these pieces, thoughts, concepts and stories are converted to images in Huizenga’s trademarked fashion, and combined with text and dialogue commentaries to create a dialectical rendering of the tension between subjectivity and objectivity and a series of various attempts — characterized by their youthful callowness and longing curiosity — at locating a harmonious balance between the two.

A common thread runs through all these stories and that is the concern with projecting one’s self — or at least one’s sense of self — through time. Glenn and, although to a lesser extent, Wendy are both haunted by time’s irrevocable march and struggle to come to terms with it. A vaguely Hinduistic view of time’s inherent cyclicality seems to be the source of some degree of solace for Glenn, and, on an extratextual level, to offer the reader a hint at the origin of his surname.

All of that is accurate, but there’s one more thing the reviewer should have mentioned, which is that it’s funny.

And I love Huizenga’s graceful cartoony drawings and his brilliant, playful page layouts. You can read a complete short story from Ganges, “Time Travelling,” on Huizenga’s website.

3. One comic book you would want on a desert island.

Jenn chose an Alan Moore comic, and I was initially tempted to choose a Moore comic too. If I had, I would have chosen From Hell. What’s tempting about Moore’s works — especially from his 80s and 90s period — is Moore’s combination of complicated, interlaced plots and his attention to even small details; I imagine I could reread From Hell a lot of times and still make new discoveries. But the truth is, From Hell, like all of Moore’s best works, is rather grim. If I’m stranded on a desert island, I want something that’s funny at least part of the time.

I was also tempted to choose Cerebus, because it’s very long, and because for the first 200 or so issues Dave Sim produced some of the best writing and cartooning I’ve ever seen in comics. (I don’t think any cartoonist has done more exploring of the possibilities of the page as a compositional unit while keeping storytelling as a primary goal.) Plus, he certainly can bring the funny, plus beautiful drawings. Plus, it’s really, really, really loooong, which is obviously important for my lonely decades on the desert island. But in later years Sim not only became a misogynistic nuuuuuutball, he lost his formerly perfect sense of story pacing. It would be depressing to have my one desert island book fizzle into bad writing and sexist bigotry in the final act.

So maybe Palomar, by Gilbert Hernandez? Hugely rereadable, lots of characters, lots of details, long page count, brilliant writing, there are some funny bits. But… Although he’s a great cartoonist, I don’t find Gilbert Hernandez to have a visually rich surface, and another thing I want out of my desert island comic book is something that’s appealing not only as a great comic book but also as a pretty surface to look at.

But then there’s Locas, by Gilbert’s brother Jamie, which I think contains everything I want: long length, lots of characters, excellent writing with funny bits, rereadable, and the surface could not be any prettier. So next time I’m on a plane that’s going down over the Pacific, I’ll try to have a copy of Locas in my carry-on.

4. One comic book that made you laugh

I’m currently reading a Little Dee collection by Chris Baldwin, and it’s been cracking me up pretty regularly. Although I think a lot of people would enjoy this (I’m kind of surprised that it didn’t become a nationwide success), I’d especially look to this as a gift for kids the right age to enjoy Garfield, but whose parents want them reading a strip that’s actually good rather than being utter crap. (Full disclosure: Chris is a friend of mine.)

5. One comic book that made you cry

Notes For A War Story by Gipi. Possibly the best comic I’ve read all year. Despite the title, it’s not what people usually think of as a war story; there are no battles, and the characters aren’t in the army. They’re three young men trying to find a way to get by in a region ripped apart by war. It’s a story more about how war interacts with class, friendship, and the hunger of young men for male role models. Plus, Gipi’s drawings are awesome.

There are very cheap copies available on Amazon.

6. One comic book you wish had been created.

From Wikipedia:

Big Numbers is an unfinished comic book series by Alan Moore (writer) and Bill Sienkiewicz (artist). Two issues, out of a planned 12, were published in 1990 by Moore’s short-lived imprint Mad Love. Moore described this series as a potential magnum opus.

In the two issues which were published the broad story is about the effect of a new US backed shopping centre development on an English town, based on Moore’s home town of Northampton. Moore tells the story from a number of perspectives using a range of disparate characters. Another level of understanding is through fractal geometry, chaos theory and the mathematical ideas of Benoît Mandelbrot. The series intended to show that patterns existing at the large scale (the effect of the town) would have existed at a micro scale (the effect on individual characters lives).

7. One comic book you wish had never been created.

Mothers and Daughters, by Dave Sim, and all the Cerebus volumes that followed it. Instead, I wish that another comic had been created; one by an alternative-universe Dave Sim who hadn’t gone insane and woman-hating and lost his writing abilities.

8. One comic book you are currently reading.

The Squirrel Mother, by Megan Kelso. I’m enjoying it; it’s not mind-blowingly great, but it’s well-done and heartfelt.

9. One comic book you have been meaning to read.

I’ve got at least 30 lined up on my “to be read” shelf. One of the ones I’m looking forward to is Gemma Bovery, by Posy Simmonds. I’m also eager to read the second collection of Walt and Skeezix by Frank King. It took me a while to really get into the first collection, but once I got into it I was utterly charmed.

10. Now tag five people!

Okay, I tag Myca (the other huge comic-book reader blogging on “Alas”) and, umn, I dunno. Whoever feels like being tagged, I guess.

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11 Responses to Meme: Influential Comics

  1. 1
    fathima says:

    tooootally off topic, but: the way the image from Ganges #1 floats around and overlaps the surrounding text and blockquote is oh so awesome. it makes the designer in me so very happy.

    also, i want to read that book (Ganges #1).

  2. “I wish that another comic had been created; one by an alternative-universe Dave Sim who hadn’t gone insane and woman-hating and lost his writing abilities.”

    Amen! I was a die-hard Cerebus fan from the early 30s and, had you asked me anywhere during the High Society or Church & State cycles, I would have said I was with the little grey guy until 300. But after a few years of issues that grew increasingly painful to slog through, I finally admitted that, 300 or not, it was over for me.

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    Ampersand says:

    tooootally off topic, but: the way the image from Ganges #1 floats around and overlaps the surrounding text and blockquote is oh so awesome. it makes the designer in me so very happy.

    Me too! Unfortunately, it doesn’t work in IE, so 90% or more of the readers won’t see it laid out correctly. Oh, well.

  4. 4
    Kevin says:

    More totally off topic: I love that image placement too.

    And October was the first month that Firefox has surpassed IE in Browser usage statistics (http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp), so I’m guessing at least half of your readers will see it correctly.

    Back on topic: thanks for reminding me of a few comics I’ve been meaning to read and pointing me to some new ones to check out. I’m woefully behind in my comics reading.

  5. 5
    Tom Nolan says:

    What, no “Dylan Dog”?

    I thought you liked comics?

  6. 6
    Doug S. says:

    Sigh, I never managed to get into comics… I’ll have to adapt these.

    1. One video game that changed your life

    Apprentice

    Thanks to a small piece of software, I was able to go from “I wish I could play in Magic tournaments” to, well, actually playing in Magic tournaments. I got pretty good, too, and it led me to various social circles that I would never have gotten involved in otherwise.

    2. One video game you play over and over

    Super Smash Bros. Melee.

    Super Smash Bros. Melee never gets old, and it has the interesting property of being fun to play no matter how badly you’re getting beaten. Four players Smash Bros = gamer’s heaven. If this game needs an introduction or a description, well, there’s not much point in giving one.

    3. One video game you would want on a desert island

    Any popular MMORPG; I could use it to call for help. ;)

    On a less practical note, I’d want NetHack. It has endless depth and replayability; one really could sit on a desert island and just play it for years. Remember, The DevTeam thinks of everything!

    4. One video game that made you laugh

    Disgaea: Hour of Darkness, for the PS2. I think this game has the best story of any video game I’ve ever played; it’s hilarious AND it has real heart, too.

    5. One video game that made you cry

    Xenosaga Episode III: Also sprach Zarathustra

    Near the end of this game, there’s a big scene in which Non Action Guy Allen Ridgeley makes a dramatic stand against one of the superpowered bad guys. Of course, he gets his ass kicked, but his refusal to give up in the face of overwhelming power inspires the rest of the heroes. I’m really not doing the scene justice here, and it had a bit of a special meaning to me because I see a lot of myself in Allen (including the hopeless unrequited crush on the game’s female lead), but yes, I was crying.

    I could have mentioned Aeris’s death scene in Final Fantasy VII, but there were so many things I didn’t like about that game that I’m not going to use it as my choice here.

    6. One video game you wish had been created

    Final Fantasy 7, with a script by Ted Woolsey, translator of Final Fantasy VI and Chrono Trigger.

    Ted Woolsey was hired as a translator by Square to make sure that nothing like the horrible Final Fantasy IV localization ever happened again. For a while, it worked, as he wrote some very readable and high quality scripts in spite of the constraints imposed upon him by limited storage space and censorship. However, before Final Fantasy VII was translated into English, Square moved its US headquarters, and Ted Woolsey didn’t move along with them.

    The script that Square ended up using was horrible. It was clearly written by people who were not native English speakers, as it contained numerous grammatical errors. It was also a translation by people who apparently didn’t know the context of what they were translating, as the dialogue is filled with bizarre non-sequiturs. It really killed the game experience for me; I still hope for a remake with a script that makes sense, as Square has found a new translator, Alexander O. Smith, who is very good at his job.

    7. One video game you wish had never been created

    Donkey Kong Country. It started a trend towards the kind of 3-D rendered graphics that I don’t find aesthetically pleasing. The PS1 era of game graphics was a giant step backwards from what I used to see on the SNES. The way I see it, either a game looks good or it doesn’t, and the capabilities of the technology have little to do with it. There are beautiful games on the NES and ugly games on the Xbox 360. If a game “looks good for its time” but looks bad today, it probably looked bad then, too!

    8. One video game you are currently playing

    Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions, for PSP

    Final Fantasy Tactics was another Square game that had the misfortune to be released after the departure of Ted Woolsey but before Square managed to put together another decent localization team. I’m looking forward to reading a version of this game’s script that actually makes sense.

    9. One video game you have been meaning to play

    Metal Gear Solid 3

    I have a ridiculous backlog of games I’ve never played. I got Metal Gear Solid 3 for Christmas several years ago and STILL haven’t played it.

    10. Now tag five people!

    Sorry, I don’t do tags.

  7. 7
    Jenn says:

    Woohoo! Someone else played the meme!

    Have you read American Born Chinese? GREAT little comic…

  8. 8
    Ampersand says:

    I loved American Born Chinese! Definitely one of my favorite comics of the last several years.

  9. 9
    Mandolin says:

    Um, I just thought this would be funny. Feel free to ignore my responses.

    1. One comic book that changed your life.

    Maus.

    2. One comic book you have read more than once.

    Maus.

    3. One comic book you would want on a desert island.

    Maus.

    4. One comic book that made you laugh

    Maus.

    5. One comic book that made you cry

    Maus.

    6. One comic book you wish had been created.

    Hereville. (Luckily for me, it’s in progress!)

    7. One comic book you wish had never been created.

    Y: The Last Man.

    8. One comic book you are currently reading.

    …I own a copy of Blankets?

    9. One comic book you have been meaning to read.

    Fun Home.

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    Dianne says:

    One comic I would want with me on a desert island: The Complete Hereville: Volumes I-LX. Also my answer to question #6. Not that this is a hint to anyone who might have created this site or anything…

  11. 11
    Ampersand says:

    Thanks for the Hereville mentions. :-)

    I am actively drawing Hereville again, but it’ll be a while before the new pages are posted in public; read about it here.