Margaret Cho: attack of the stupid racist misogynists

So MSNBC posted a few transcribed fragments (about 2 minutes of a 20 minute stand-up routine) of Margaret Cho’s set at a MoveOn event. From MSNBC the transcript migrated to Drudge, and from Drudge to a thread on FreeRepublic (down, down, sinking ever down).

And from there, a remarkable deluge of hate mail, mostly criticizing Cho for being fat, Asian and female, traits that are considered grievous flaws by some right-wingers. The mail suggests that Cho should go back to China (Cho, who has Korean-American parents, was born in San Francisco); the mail uses the phrase “slant-eyed” over and over again; the mail suggests she should go fuck a pig.

Cho’s reply, on her blog, shows that she has a thousand times more wit and class than her attackers:

Let’s see. because I am absolutely adamant to fight for the right for same sex couples to marry, enjoy all the benefits that heterosexual couples have, because the government cannot and should not be able to tell consenting adults how and whom they would love, nor should they penalize them for doing what is natural and in the name of the Lord – righteous – because love is love is love is love – because I am a woman, because I am a feminist, because I am an Asian American, because I question our current administration and their disturbing tactics, their hypocrisy, their lies, their murderous, conniving antics – I should be fucked by pigs? I think that is such a strange penalty for an opinion that is only fair and just. I don’t think that the pigs would like me that way. I haven’t ever done a pig, but you just know when the other party just isn’t attracted to you. I don’t think that a pig or a boar for that matter would be that into me. I have tried flirting, looking a little too long in a pig’s eyes, touching the pig’s leg when I was talking to it, letting my hair fall over the pig’s snout while laughing a sexy, snorty chuckle. Pigs just don’t think I am hot.

That’s just a small sample – I really recommend that you go read the whole thing. And read Cho’s earlier blog response, as well.

Cho’s manager originally posted the hateful emails intact – including the names and email addresses of the writers. As a result, the haters have been flooded with emails, and some of them begged Cho to remove their emails from her website. Cho, showing the hate mail writers far more decency than they’d earned, complied and is asking that her supporters no longer send emails.

Remarkably, a few of the hate mail writers have since written again to apologize. One person who originally wrote in to call Cho a “fuckin’ fat cunt” wrote again to apologize, and added that “I am the father of a daughter, the husband of a wife, the son of a mother and the brother of a sister and I feel like I owe them an apology also–although I’ll never be brave enough to do so.” It’s surprising that he’s perceptive enough to realize that his misogyny was an insult to all women, not just to Cho.

Years ago, when I was one of the token feminists on the anti-feminist Usenet group “alt.feminism,” most of the folks there assumed I was a woman. I would sometimes get vile, angry, semi-literate emails. Once it became better-known that I was male, the frequency of the hate mail went down. There was apparently no longer as much need to slap me back down into my proper place, once I was no longer thought a woman.

“D Ce” wrote an excellent analysis of the Cho hate mail, which was published on American Politics Journal. Here’s a sample:

It seems obvious to the most obtuse observer that the reservoir of misogyny which overflows here — in this type of hate mail directed at any woman who “steps out of line” — is the self-same reservoir which fuels the stoning, mutilation, rape and multifarious other abuses of women worldwide. The sound of men stoking up their own righteous misogyny (domestically or in public) is the same in any language and in any century.

The irony is of course both ludicrous and painful — men who fancy that “their” Anglo-American culture is so civilised and superior to all others, are nevertheless eager to pick up their (verbal, thank goodness) rocks and indulge in an orgy of misogynist abuse and vicarious/fantasy violence. They indulge all the more freely and with no pause for reflection, since the verbal abuse occurs online, in the virtual world — semi-anonymous and “not real”. But the viciousness, the intent to hurt and humiliate, and the evident relishing of the intended hurt and humiliation, are quite real even if no physical contact is ever made. The racism is hardly distinguishable from the misogyny — race is sexualised and gender is racialised, both vilified in one seamless paroxysm of loathing.

I have the deepest sympathy for Ms Cho. She was of course selected more or less at random, in our perverse new variant on Warhol’s axiomatic 15 minutes of fame. You can never tell who the hatemongers will put in their crosshairs next, who will happen to catch their fickle attention. One week it will be Penn, then Sarandon, then they’ll drag Jane Fonda out of cold storage again, then Hillary Clinton… The intensity of the attack has little to do with anything actually said or done by the target; the fickle attention of the e-mob skitters over the surface of celebrity and visibility, a plectrum on the Ouija board of our culture-wars.

In a very real sense — as I am sure Cho understands — it’s nothing personal, it’s strictly business. The rightwing demagogues promote this kind of hate-fest almost as a commercial service, a form of pimping — inviting their “friends” to the next scheduled public stoning or hanging, as it were. It’s both an entertainment and a ritual, like cock-fighting or bear-baiting. Like cock-fighting and bear-baiting it is a ritual closely linked to essentialist notions about masculinity and male pride. The dual nature of the Internet makes the poison-pen campaign an ambiguously public experience, with elements of both group exhibitionism and intensely private (masturbatory, as attested by the content of these hate mails to Cho) self-indulgence.

D Ce’s analysis is exactly on-target, in my view. It’s men with a peculiar notion of masculinity – that masculinity is something that can be threatened or lost and is under attack and must be defended – who would think to write such hate mail. D Ce likens the mass asshole attack on Cho to a circle-jerk. It has elements of that to it, but I think it also has elements of a frat house gang rape. Not that writing a racist, woman-hating email is the same as rape – of course, it’s not equivalent at all. And I’m not saying that the letter-writers would themselves rape if they had the chance (I have no way of knowing). But I think the wellspring of contempt for women and wounded “masculinity” that led to this orgy of hate-mail, is the same wellspring that rapists drink deep from.

Cho’s manager has asked that no more letters of support be sent, right now – Cho’s mailbox is overflowing with support. As disgusting as Cho’s attackers are, it’s a pleasure to see her rise above them so effortlessly.

Some links via The Sideshow..

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14 Responses to Margaret Cho: attack of the stupid racist misogynists

  1. YouKnowWo says:

    Are any of you lesbians at least good looking?
    Here’s a word from a movie with heart:
    “Clusterfuck”

  2. Rook says:

    Geez, YouKnoWo, nothing like showing the world just how insecure you really are in your ability as a man to satisfy a woman.
    Forgive me for asking, but do you need to use a hot bucket of water when taking a leak? You know, to separate the one red hair from the black.

    Oh, ampersand, if I’ve stepped out of line with this response to YouKnoWo, I apologize, but I just couldn’t help myself.

    Oh, ok, yes I could.

  3. JRC says:

    God, this really just proves once and for all how much more classy Ms. Cho is than her attackers.

    They send her racist, misogynist, threatening hate mail, and she replies with humor and grace.
    They write in whining begging her to remove the evidence of their subhumanity from her site, and she does so promptly.

    One would hope that the folks at FreeRepublic.com would take a lesson from this: Don’t pick fights with your betters. You’ll lose every time, and look bad doing it.

    —JRC

  4. Keith says:

    Margaret Cho is the epitome of grace and class. I’ve enjoyed her humor for years and her blog for months. I’d like to say that I’m shocked and startled by the widespread and virulant hate of the right but I’ve been reading David Neiwert over at Orcinus for about as long and so have no excuses. I’m fully informed and still disgusted.

    Asside: can anyone tell me why the freepers are so angry when they have their boys in total control? You’d think they’d be simply smug and self rightious but instead they’re insecurity is overwhelming.

  5. Ms Lauren says:

    The apologies were surprising. Unfortunately, the attacks weren’t. I should post the hate mail I get – you might be surprised how tough is it to own a website proclaiming feminist politics in the title. Right.

  6. EdgeWise says:

    I had the same experience with people (male and female) sending hate mail to me for expressing my feminist views when they assumed I was a woman. When it became known I was a male, it dropped off precipitously. I don’t pretent to understand the roots of mysogyny, but this baffles me. I can understand why anti-abortion zealots would more fiercely attempt to indoctrinate a woman, but I do not understand why they react this way on other feminist issues.

    It was actually mainly the mysogyny and hate mail on a local Catholic diocese’s discussion group that caused me to question my religion. I eventually renounced Catholicism and become a Quaker for many reasons, not least of which that I believed the harmful official teachings with regards to women were to blame for my negative experience. (Note: 15% of Catholics are Pro-Choice, and most are very decent people)

  7. hope says:

    I followed alt.feminism for a short while too. 1993-ish. Too much unapologetic misogyny for me to maintain interest.

  8. Straight. White. Male. Blonde. Slightly over six feet tall. Reasonably good looking.

    Why should I get upset when somebody tells a joke targeting my people? We rule the world don’t we? It’s unfortunate that the rest of my brethen have so little perspective. And such stunted senses of humor.

    I recommend beating them until their attitude improves.

    Margaret demonstrates far more grace than I think I possess.

  9. PDM says:

    The fact that the DemReps ar trying to appeal to these assholes is evidence that Nader was right……

  10. neko says:

    They told her to fuck pigs? Were they hoping she’d get with them?

    Geesh, what a pack of whiny losers. Pretty pathetic they can be so tough in cyberspace. I’m glad she published their email addresses so they could get a taste of their own damn medicine.

    And I’m quite surprised–and heartened–by the apologies.

  11. Raznor says:

    Interesting update, we have more correspondence from one of her attackers.

    And I’ll add that Margaret Cho rocks hardcore.

  12. Patrick says:

    Margaret Cho is a bit heavy but made incredibly sexy by her great “cans” and social wit shes hot and I’d marry that sexy asian bitch as soon as I got rid of my girlfriend-not everyone can be funny all the time but shes funny most of the time, and she’s original and thats almost fucking improssible

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